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Post by stolenbooks on Mar 9, 2015 4:27:25 GMT -5
I liked their relationship prior to Mary Anne vs. Logan. Then his character seemed to do a complete 180. Like he was this very sweet guy and then they needed them to break up for the book, so they turned him into a total jerkwad who started to control Mary Anne. Their relationship was always a bit much for 13, but if you look past it, it just went downhill after that and I was sort of happy they broke up again instead of staying together in the Friends Forever series. I just wish that like the other girls, we got to see her date more people. Stacey and Claudia had some serious boyfriends at certain points but they weren't the only serious boyfriends they ever had during the series.
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Post by cnj on Jul 11, 2021 19:10:03 GMT -5
I'm glad they broke up for good eventually...he wasn't right for her.
And I'm glad they didn't have Mary Anne start dating a new guy too soon.
There is too much of that in too many teen series where a girl breaks up with a boyfriend and a couple of books later, she has a new boyfriend.
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Post by andrew on Jul 21, 2021 21:19:35 GMT -5
I go with the second, they're OK, usually sweet, but Logan did become a bit too possessive and also Mary Anne a little too high-expectations, fine and understandable that they broke up.
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Post by cnj on Jul 21, 2021 23:58:04 GMT -5
...also Mary Anne a little too high-expectations, fine and understandable that they broke up. I don't think Mary Anne's expectations were "too high." I think she just wasn't ready for a long-term romance yet. Thirteen really is a tad too young for steady dating or having a boyfriend. I'm extremely glad that the BSC were not all paired off with boyfriends at thirteen. Too many other teen girls' series tended to focus too much on boyfriends and dating.
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Post by oldhickory on Jul 22, 2021 9:52:56 GMT -5
I liked them together a lot and found their relationship to be pretty realistic for 13-year-olds (if a bit optimistic). But I also think it's good that they broke up when they did. They felt like an All American young couple that everyone was rooting for, and young girls need to see things other than fairy tales. It's good to see a couple breaking up because it just wasn't working anymore - not because one cheated, or died, or something else dramatic. Plus I would say everybody deserves to have lots of experiences and relationships before settling down.
If they were 17 or 23, I probably wouldn't bat an eye at their relationship.
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Post by cnj on Jul 22, 2021 19:18:34 GMT -5
Yes, it was realistic...I didn't see them as the "all-American" couple, but I did see a sort of realistic edition of two thirteen-year-olds from different backgrounds who give dating a go for a while, break up a few times, then break up realistically for good.
I also say that seventeen to twenty-three is better than thirteen for steady dating.
I'm so glad that despite typical early-teen crushes and all, the BSC books didn't focus too much on dating and/or boyfriends.
It was good to see the BSC series main focus remain on female to female friendships.
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Post by CharlotteTJohanssen on Jul 23, 2021 23:21:24 GMT -5
Sometimes a bit too intense with their age, otherwise an okay couple. I wish MA didn’t drag out needing to talk to him in the last book and have it be underwhelming when they finally do.
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Post by cnj on Jul 24, 2021 0:55:13 GMT -5
Sometimes a bit too intense with their age, otherwise an okay couple. I wish MA didn’t drag out needing to talk to him in the last book and have it be underwhelming when they finally do. I think the "dragging out" was a plotline device more than Mary Anne's doing. I'm actually glad that their breakup was low-key with low drama Mary Anne did not need any drama with a painful enough breakup. Those two were not compatible and ideally should have broken up for good earlier in the series. To me, they didn't weren't right for each other and it grew more obvious as the books went on.
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