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Post by Sideshowjazz1 on Jul 27, 2019 1:49:55 GMT -5
This isn't about a specific crying moment, but does anyone think that Mary Anne goes right past crybaby territory? I consider myself a crybaby, and I have NEVER cried as much as she does at thirteen. It's not even the happy crying. I hate scenes as much as the next person, but I only cry if things get really hurtful. Like saying I'm not mature enough or capable of being a university student when I have passed all of my papers thus far, and the quiz I nearly failed won't even count. But while Mary Anne is sensitive, and that's fine with me, the way she cries so much is too unrealistic. I don't think it's that "unrealistic." Mary Anne is a highly sensitive person or an HSP for short. It's a perfectly normal, healthy trait that about twenty percent of the human population carries... www.hsperson.comNot all HSPs are the same, though...some HSPs are outgoing and not at all shy. Famous HSPs...Lady Diana and Oprah Winfrey. I won't dispute that it's normal to be sensitive. I took the test myself and it indicated that I had ticked enough questions that there was a very high chance that I am an HSP. It may be part of my ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder), but it doesn't change that. However, I do still think that Mary Anne cries a lot more than the average thirteen-year-old. Her sensitivity is not my problem with her - it's the fact that almost everything makes her cry - surely there are other reactions she can have? I think the only time she didn't cry was when her house burned down, and it was implied that the reason she couldn't cry was because crying came so easily to her in other situations.
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Post by cnj on Jul 27, 2019 21:27:34 GMT -5
I don't think it's that "unrealistic." Mary Anne is a highly sensitive person or an HSP for short. It's a perfectly normal, healthy trait that about twenty percent of the human population carries... www.hsperson.comNot all HSPs are the same, though...some HSPs are outgoing and not at all shy. Famous HSPs...Lady Diana and Oprah Winfrey. I won't dispute that it's normal to be sensitive. I took the test myself and it indicated that I had ticked enough questions that there was a very high chance that I am an HSP. It may be part of my ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder), but it doesn't change that. However, I do still think that Mary Anne cries a lot more than the average thirteen-year-old. Her sensitivity is not my problem with her - it's the fact that almost everything makes her cry - surely there are other reactions she can have? I think the only time she didn't cry was when her house burned down, and it was implied that the reason she couldn't cry was because crying came so easily to her in other situations. True that Mary Anne does cry way more often than the average thirteen-year-old...mainly because Mary Anne is not just an average person. Being highly sensitive is NOT pathological at all...until recent years, it was a stigmatized trait and many HSPs, including sensitive teenagers were ridiculed, shamed and unfairly stigmatized because their emotional reactions did not fit the societal norm. Lady Diana was shamed and mocked during her marriage because she cried easily and was into the arts and music and couldn't bear confrontation or having to perform. Oprah was often ridiculed when she cried and in school, kids snickered at her because she saw things that others missed and was very precocious and articulate for her age. I think Mary Anne was gifted...often gifted people are emotionally sensitive. This wonderful trait should be celebrated, not shamed or pathologicalized. Mary Anne has dealt beautifully with many difficult situations, including a few difficult baby-sitting charges and even a difficult boss in The Secret Life of Mary Anne Spier without breaking down. Like Diana and Oprah, Mary Anne is great at wiping away her tears and doing what has to be done...they don't let tears stop them.
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Post by Sideshowjazz1 on Jul 27, 2019 21:53:22 GMT -5
I won't dispute that it's normal to be sensitive. I took the test myself and it indicated that I had ticked enough questions that there was a very high chance that I am an HSP. It may be part of my ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder), but it doesn't change that. However, I do still think that Mary Anne cries a lot more than the average thirteen-year-old. Her sensitivity is not my problem with her - it's the fact that almost everything makes her cry - surely there are other reactions she can have? I think the only time she didn't cry was when her house burned down, and it was implied that the reason she couldn't cry was because crying came so easily to her in other situations. True that Mary Anne does cry way more often than the average thirteen-year-old...mainly because Mary Anne is not just an average person. Being highly sensitive is NOT pathological at all...until recent years, it was a stigmatized trait and many HSPs, including sensitive teenagers were ridiculed, shamed and unfairly stigmatized because their emotional reactions did not fit the societal norm. Lady Diana was shamed and mocked during her marriage because she cried easily and was into the arts and music and couldn't bear confrontation or having to perform. Oprah was often ridiculed when she cried and in school, kids snickered at her because she saw things that others missed and was very precocious and articulate for her age. I think Mary Anne was gifted...often gifted people are emotionally sensitive. This wonderful trait should be celebrated, not shamed or pathologicalized. Mary Anne has dealt beautifully with many difficult situations, including a few difficult baby-sitting charges and even a difficult boss in The Secret Life of Mary Anne Spier without breaking down. Like Diana and Oprah, Mary Anne is great at wiping away her tears and doing what has to be done...they don't let tears stop them. I didn't say it was pathological. I was talking about tears, not sensitivity. It feels as if you're taking con against an argument I didn't make.
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Post by cnj on Jul 27, 2019 22:10:22 GMT -5
True that Mary Anne does cry way more often than the average thirteen-year-old...mainly because Mary Anne is not just an average person. Being highly sensitive is NOT pathological at all...until recent years, it was a stigmatized trait and many HSPs, including sensitive teenagers were ridiculed, shamed and unfairly stigmatized because their emotional reactions did not fit the societal norm. Lady Diana was shamed and mocked during her marriage because she cried easily and was into the arts and music and couldn't bear confrontation or having to perform. Oprah was often ridiculed when she cried and in school, kids snickered at her because she saw things that others missed and was very precocious and articulate for her age. I think Mary Anne was gifted...often gifted people are emotionally sensitive. This wonderful trait should be celebrated, not shamed or pathologicalized. Mary Anne has dealt beautifully with many difficult situations, including a few difficult baby-sitting charges and even a difficult boss in The Secret Life of Mary Anne Spier without breaking down. Like Diana and Oprah, Mary Anne is great at wiping away her tears and doing what has to be done...they don't let tears stop them. I didn't say it was pathological. I was talking about tears, not sensitivity. It feels as if you're taking con against an argument I didn't make. There's absolutely nothing wrong with crying either. More people should be encouraged to let their tears out when they need to cry...not suppress them. The world would be a lot better and people would be healthier and happier if they were more open with their tears instead of stifling them. I admire people like Mary Anne, Diana and Oprah, who let their tears out, but wipe their tears away and do what must be done. Mary Anne cries lots, but never has become derailed by her tears.
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Post by Sideshowjazz1 on Jul 27, 2019 22:13:45 GMT -5
I didn't say it was pathological. I was talking about tears, not sensitivity. It feels as if you're taking con against an argument I didn't make. There's nothing wrong with crying either. More people should be encouraged to let their tears out when they need to cry...not suppress them. The world would be a lot better and people would be healthier and happier if they were more open with their tears instead of stifling them. I admire people like Mary Anne, Diana and Oprah, who let their tears out, but wipe their tears away and do what must be done. Mary Anne cries lots, but never has become derailed by her tears. I didn't say there was anything wrong with it. I just find it hard to believe she cries more than I do. And I cry every week.
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Post by cnj on Jul 27, 2019 22:15:33 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with crying either. More people should be encouraged to let their tears out when they need to cry...not suppress them. The world would be a lot better and people would be healthier and happier if they were more open with their tears instead of stifling them. I admire people like Mary Anne, Diana and Oprah, who let their tears out, but wipe their tears away and do what must be done. Mary Anne cries lots, but never has become derailed by her tears. I didn't say there was anything wrong with it. I just find it hard to believe she cries more than I do. And I cry every week. I can believe it...I personally know several perfectly happy, normal people who cry almost daily.
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Post by Sideshowjazz1 on Jul 27, 2019 22:19:55 GMT -5
I didn't say there was anything wrong with it. I just find it hard to believe she cries more than I do. And I cry every week. I can believe it...I personally know several perfectly happy, normal people who cry almost daily. Okay. Can we just leave it at that?
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Post by cnj on Jul 28, 2019 11:42:12 GMT -5
I can believe it...I personally know several perfectly happy, normal people who cry almost daily. Okay. Can we just leave it at that? Yep!
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