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Post by lindamaryanne on Sept 10, 2015 11:56:38 GMT -5
Claudia probabaly misspelled janines IQ
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Post by LadyDru on Sept 19, 2017 17:31:44 GMT -5
It was in Kristy's Great Idea where Janine's IQ was said to be 196..either way, I think her genius state was overdone, in comparison with other genius characters in the world of fiction. Like Billy Cranston from Power Rangers who spoke technobabble only Trini was able to translate but when the other rangers just used regular, simple speech he didn't correct them in a superior manner. Also Ami Mizuno from Sailor Moon had an IQ of 300..she was mostly book smart and had a good understanding of whatever it was she paid attention to/analyzed..not sure about Umino though but both were humble and didn't flaunt their intelligence the way Janine did in earlier books.
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Post by oldhickory on Sept 20, 2017 9:10:49 GMT -5
In Flowers for Algernon, Charlie's IQ is upgraded to 185, but his life totally falls apart after his procedure. He loses friends and becomes an alcoholic. I just don't see any of those issues in Janine. Even though she isn't as social as Claudia, she has friends and a boyfriend and she was really sweet when she babysat for Emily Michelle (one of my favorite moments). She also seems to have a strong sense of control over her own life. So I guess I just don't believe her IQ could be 196. I feel like somebody with that IQ would be crushed by the weight of their own genius and Janine is too well-adjusted. Obviously she's really intelligent but the number doesn't make sense to me.
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Post by Katie on Oct 1, 2017 16:58:59 GMT -5
Everything I can find on IQ puts above 130-140 as being very advanced intelligence. 196 just seems unrealistic. Maybe 146 or 156 but I guess Ann was going for over the top when she invented Janine.
My son tested at 121 with a psychologist but he only does average work in school in many areas as his ADHD, anxiety and fine motor delays sometimes impede in his learning.
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Post by mallorypike on Oct 1, 2017 19:58:48 GMT -5
Yeah, Janine’s IQ can’t possibly be 196. That’s higher than Albert Einstein’s! I think it’s possible it could be between 136 and 166.
I absolutely love Flowers for Algernon!
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Post by Sideshowjazz1 on Apr 8, 2018 0:32:25 GMT -5
My main problem with Janine is actually not her IQ, but the way it's shown. There are two many scenes when she talks like a high-level textbook or shows interest in intellectual stuff all the time. Even geniuses like mindless stuff once in a while, and as another fictional genius once said "I don't talk like that. Nobody talks like that." It's true...Janine often speaks in a very intellectual manner, which is both annoying and unrealistic. Is this her IQ, or is it just poor writing?
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Post by booboobrewer on Apr 8, 2018 20:07:16 GMT -5
She talks precisely, but she still goes out with friends, has picnics with her boyfriend, sometimes take babysitting jobs in a pinch, etc.
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Post by Sideshowjazz1 on Apr 8, 2018 20:39:01 GMT -5
She talks precisely, but she still goes out with friends, has picnics with her boyfriend, sometimes take babysitting jobs in a pinch, etc. I think that was the work of ghostwriters, though. It's Ann's portrayal of her that makes her seem more like a smart person with nothing but logic and facts in her head. I admire the ghostwriters for that, because she does act...how old is she? Sixteen? Fifteen?...without losing her genius tendencies - she does sometimes slip back into talking too precisely, but she feels more humanized in the later books because she was more rounded.
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Post by oldhickory on Apr 9, 2018 16:20:17 GMT -5
My main problem with Janine is actually not her IQ, but the way it's shown. There are two many scenes when she talks like a high-level textbook or shows interest in intellectual stuff all the time. Even geniuses like mindless stuff once in a while, and as another fictional genius once said "I don't talk like that. Nobody talks like that." It's true...Janine often speaks in a very intellectual manner, which is both annoying and unrealistic. Is this her IQ, or is it just poor writing? It feels like poor writing to me. The BSC books like extremes, so they made Janine an extreme, unrealistic example of a genius. I work in an engineering college and I'm surrounded by tremendously bright students, but I promise you that some of them use their talents for silly things and none of them remind me of Janine.
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Post by booboobrewer on Apr 12, 2018 19:21:40 GMT -5
In #2 Janine confessed that “candy is my vice” and she liked playing board games with the family. She’s thoughtful with the kids too, like Jamie and Lucy and giving a balloon to Emily. Those were Ann-written...
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Post by msstock87 on May 21, 2018 21:09:57 GMT -5
I liked whenever we saw other sides to Janine besides her genius IQ. It made her more well rounded.
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Post by LadyDru on Jan 15, 2019 9:03:37 GMT -5
My main problem with Janine is actually not her IQ, but the way it's shown. There are two many scenes when she talks like a high-level textbook or shows interest in intellectual stuff all the time. Even geniuses like mindless stuff once in a while, and as another fictional genius once said "I don't talk like that. Nobody talks like that." It's true...Janine often speaks in a very intellectual manner, which is both annoying and unrealistic. Is this her IQ, or is it just poor writing? Well said! I would say it's the writing.
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Post by merrymelody on Jun 9, 2020 11:36:26 GMT -5
TBH, the Kishis seemed pretty hands off as far as their daughter's education went, so I wonder if no one ever suggested Janine skip a grade/go to college early, so they just let the issue lie.
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Post by eternalstudent on Jun 12, 2020 9:00:44 GMT -5
Reading the books as an adult, it's easier for me to see the narrators as less trustworthy (Mary Anne Saves the Day is an example of this). I don't think Janine's IQ was 196 and this number was probably something Claudia came up with. Although it also could have just been bad writing/research.
I also had difficulty relating to my peers in high school but did a lot better at uni because I was around people with similar interests.
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