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Post by sotypical42483 on May 9, 2006 13:19:54 GMT -5
I always wonder about the Shillabers! I wish we knew more about them!
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Post by hitzpink on May 9, 2006 19:50:01 GMT -5
Yeah, it would have been nice to learn more about the Shillabers, and especially to see actual examples of Kristy and Mary Anne's friendship with them. Maybe one of them could have been considered as a new club member when Dawn moved away or something. That would have been kinda neat.
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Post by ktag on May 9, 2006 20:21:56 GMT -5
And instead they brought in another set of twins to get a new member. Maybe the Shillabers got insulted when Kristy and Mary Anne stopped hanging out with them, so they hated the BSC.
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Post by jen on May 11, 2006 7:34:07 GMT -5
The Shillabers never get mentioned after the first few books, do they? They're mentioned in Mary Anne's Bad Luck Mystery, and I think in Mary Anne + 2 Many Babies, but I can't think of any others.
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Post by sotypical42483 on May 11, 2006 11:20:01 GMT -5
Yeah they are mostly just in the earlier books of the series. Its kind of a shame, they could've worked them in more, I think. Especially cause it seemed like Kristy was really good friends with them at the beginning (MA said they were Kristy's friends and thats why she sat with them as well), I mean Kristy ditched a BSC meeting to hang out with them!
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Post by inge on May 11, 2006 17:04:56 GMT -5
and after a while she totally ditched the twins to hang out with the BSC. Really rude. Especially Mary Anne saying they just had to find their own group of friends, now. Hello, you girls were supposed to be their friends. If you hang out more with the BSC it doesn't mean your friendship with everyone else has to be over. Oh, wait, in BSCworld it does.
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Post by greer on May 11, 2006 17:13:52 GMT -5
It is kind of strange that Kristy and co. ditched the Shillaber twins, but being in the BSC took up so much time that no one really had any real friends outside of the club. only in friends forever do club members strike up real, hang out outside of school friendships--except when stacey briefly leaves the club.
I think the time commitment is one of the most unrealistic things about the series. I really like having free time. They go to school, baby-sit like three times a week, go to meetings three times a week--no wonder stacey had trouble balancing boyfriend time with bsc time!
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Post by macca on May 11, 2006 18:08:11 GMT -5
^ and in Stacey and the Bad Girls, when Stacey quit the BSC and was actually spending her summer vacation like a normal 13 yr old girl, her mum was furious and insisted she get a job and quit laying around the house all day!
They're also mentioned in MA Misses Logan - Mariah Shillaber was originally in the group before switching places with Cokie. She hated Pete Black, because he - OMG - snapped her bra!
In Logan Likes Mary Anne, it is mentioned that there were going to be "a lot of hurt feelings" now that the BSC ate lunch together every day and never associated with anyone outside their group.
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Post by starrynight on May 23, 2006 16:03:31 GMT -5
The change in the books from what they were in the beginning to what they were at the end was pretty gradual, but whenever I go back and read this one, it hits me like a ton of bricks! I'm not totally down on the newer ones, but I can't help but wonder (like everyone else) what the series would have been like if it had kept more of the flavor of this first book. It was like a tv pilot, in a way....shows change a lot from the pilot to the regular episodes.
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Post by macca on May 23, 2006 22:26:32 GMT -5
^ I know what you mean about the change hitting you like a ton of bricks. Read any of the later books and then this one. It's like a completely different series.
I don't think the series would've progressed as it did if the books had kept the original flavor. The girls were too much like 12/13 yr olds to have any real, exciting adventures.
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Post by Amalia on May 25, 2006 2:47:55 GMT -5
^ Yeah, money talks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2006 23:18:52 GMT -5
I agree with you mcpon. Scholastic probably had to make the girls seem older in the later books in order to keep selling them. It's really a shame though because I thought like a lot of you that the earlier books were much better written it was probably due to the fact that Ann wrote the earlier books and once the ghostwriters took over that's when the series started to become so different.
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Post by booboobrewer on Oct 9, 2006 0:25:31 GMT -5
Maybe the Shillabers were not mentioned as often as they could have been because of Myriah Perkins; maybe they thought readers would find the Mariah and Myriah names confusing. Dunno. But I liked them from what little there was of them and the fact that they were the SMS twins before Abby and Anna came along.
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Post by starrynight on Oct 9, 2006 14:53:32 GMT -5
I've thought of that, too, but I think they just didn't have the time and desire to throw in all those peripheral characters all time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2006 19:53:39 GMT -5
you actually had to read chapter 2 and 3 (does anyone find themselves skipping that one too? Yeah, we've got the idea of how the club works ) yeah, i just skimmed it so i'd know where to pick up. ;D
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