macca
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Post by macca on Oct 24, 2007 3:58:33 GMT -5
Yeah, I definitely saw foreshadowing of the divorce in earlier books, although it was pretty subtle.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2007 11:15:29 GMT -5
I've noticed hints that the McGills' marriage was an unhappy one in some of the earlier books, too. I thought I was imagining it because as I was rereading I knew what would ultimately happen, so it's interesting to see that other people picked up on it, too.
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Post by blossom114 on Oct 24, 2007 13:08:09 GMT -5
there's def some references to it in earlier books... . In Claudia and hte sad goodbye there's definitely a reference to her parents fighting the night before the funeral, and i think there was a reference in Kristy and the mothers day surprise and Stacey said "at least they're not fighting about me." There were some hints that were thrown in there.
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Post by aln1982 on Oct 24, 2007 16:34:34 GMT -5
^ I kind of thought Mr. McGill was a jerk in Sad Goodbye with not coming to the funeral. I know he didn't know Mimi but fighting with his wife shouldn't have made him shrug off being there for Stacey's sake. Once again, it seems like Ed was putting Ed's desires first. ;D Even though I wish they wouldn't have gotten a divorce and would have been able to work things out, I can't blame Mrs. McGill for not wanting to be married to him.
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Post by macca on Oct 24, 2007 16:39:39 GMT -5
^ yeah, Mr McGill had some very, very bad moments. His attitude in Island Adventure was inexcusable.
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Post by aln1982 on Oct 24, 2007 19:25:33 GMT -5
^ Agree. He was so selfish in that one. Actually, in almost every book. ;D Definitely not my favorite BSC dad....
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Post by macca on Oct 24, 2007 23:45:24 GMT -5
Not to mention that both of Stacey's parents were awful in Stacey's Emergency. And then they had the nerve to be infuriated when Stacey finally screamed at them to "shut up"
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Post by Sweet City Girl on Oct 25, 2007 10:09:15 GMT -5
I know; that really annoyed me. Stacey had every right to be mad at them. I mean, here she was, feeling awful enough as it was about her diabetes and being in the hospital, and her parents had to go and fight in front of her right when she needed them to be emotionally stable the most. They should have apologized to her. I'm glad Stacey finally told her parents how they were making her feel in the end. I always feel so much sympathy for Stacey about the divorce; it's hard enough to be in that situation without her parents putting her in the middle. My parents aren't divorced, but I can understand how much she hates the fighting, as my parents sometimes fight. Luckily their relationship is stable, though .
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Post by macca on Oct 25, 2007 16:15:47 GMT -5
I know; that really annoyed me. Stacey had every right to be mad at them. I mean, here she was, feeling awful enough as it was about her diabetes and being in the hospital, and her parents had to go and fight in front of her right when she needed them to be emotionally stable the most. They should have apologized to her. I absolutely agree. Dr Phil would have a field day with Ed and Maureen!
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Post by aln1982 on Oct 25, 2007 16:32:55 GMT -5
^ ;D My mom loves that show. ;D As for my parents fighting, it always used to scare me when they did when I was younger - a lot of it because of the BSC. I know this has been discussed, though, in the divorce thread whether or not having so many divorces was a good idea. Thinking of that reminds me of the Walker kids in this book. I felt for them with being kind of confused about the whole divorce thing. It's sad how many people - even those well beyond the extended family and close friends - something like that can effect. I was glad that this was the book that brought Stacey back to Stoneybrook, though, and enjoyed seeing the other girls try to help her through the adjustment - even though this wasn't addressed nearly enough I don't think. I really would have liked more bonding between Dawn and Stacey over the divorces.
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Post by aln1982 on Dec 9, 2007 9:04:27 GMT -5
I liked how Dawn tried to help Stacey in this one and wish they would have developed their relationship more. I really felt for Stacey and it was good that she had friends there for her. The one who seemed the least “there” for her was Claudia – “oh, sorry your parents are getting divorced but I’M so happy that you’re moving back.” Even though I can’t relate personally to Stacey in this situation, this book makes me glad I can’t and I know a lot of kids probably can. I think my favorite thing about this book is the Walker kids. They are so adorable.
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Post by u4me on Dec 9, 2007 15:55:30 GMT -5
I think it would have been better to, instead of desribing Jessi, Walker's etc as black, to call them African American and everyone else as Caucasian, Japanese American, etc. That way it would have been fair I don't like when people go the "African American" route. They're not from Africa!! I don't think someone should be called that unless a close ancestor is actually from Africa. If you're from America, you're American, period. If you're black, you're black, if you're white, you're white. If you're whatever other color, that's what you are. Get over it! Not all African Americans are black anyway.
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Post by aln1982 on Dec 9, 2007 17:11:41 GMT -5
^ I totally agree and you're right. I don't like the "politically correct" terms, either, and find them annoying. Another point on this book is that I always find it funny (though I probably shouldn't ;D) when Stacey corrects her parents for saying "marriage counselor" and says "divorce counselor".
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Post by macca on Dec 10, 2007 15:04:45 GMT -5
I think it would have been better to, instead of desribing Jessi, Walker's etc as black, to call them African American and everyone else as Caucasian, Japanese American, etc. That way it would have been fair I don't like when people go the "African American" route. They're not from Africa!! I don't think someone should be called that unless a close ancestor is actually from Africa. If you're from America, you're American, period. If you're black, you're black, if you're white, you're white. If you're whatever other color, that's what you are. Get over it! Not all African Americans are black anyway. Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. It was the BSC's occasional insinuation that being black was something negative ("I'm just gonna say it" etc) that bothered me.
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Post by greer on Dec 10, 2007 15:06:59 GMT -5
yah it was weird... like they expected to be shocked and almost apalled that jessi was black. wtf ann.
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