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Post by zoar3 on May 9, 2011 11:34:57 GMT -5
^I think Kristy felt unsettled by her move and change of neighborhoods. Didn't she say that she knew her friends were growing apart from her or something similar? It was very sad but horribly true. I suspect that inside MA had hurt Kristy had a great deal but that Kristy maybe wanted to hang onto whatever positive memories or tiny bit fof friendship the two still had and that's why she never said anything? I really wish she had. Lol, don't get me started on Abby. Seriously, I totally think Kristy should have one day asked MA to come over and simply said she missed their friendship and felt like they really weren't friends anymore. Of course, MA would have either cried immediately or become nasty but it would have been worth a try.
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Post by virgoscorpio on Dec 4, 2011 14:50:01 GMT -5
LOL @ Toby growing up to be Mike "The Situation".
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Post by celaeno on Feb 19, 2012 0:11:27 GMT -5
When I was little, I was in totally in love with the cover of this book, and I seem to remember spending a lot of time looking at it (weird, I know). Stacey and Mary Anne looked so pretty and sexy (at least, to an 8-year-old) and it was exactly how I fantasized that being a 13-year-old would be like. Reading this book, I feel like Trampoline World doesn't really make sense. Mary Anne talks about how she needs to walk through a bunch of kids to reach Margo, which makes it sound like the trampoline area is just one huge trampoline (instead of several smaller ones). But is that even possible? That sounds like a moonbounce, not a trampoline. Regardless, I LOVED trampolines when I was little, and heck, even though I'm in my 20s I would still be unbelievably excited if I got a trampoline. So this section was fun for me to read about. Is this book the only time in the series where one of the sitters (Mal) never learns that someone has a crush on her (Chris)? This seems like another Ann Hates Mal moment. That girl could use a self-esteem boost, how come she's the only one to not learn that someone actually took an interest in her??? lol The chapter with Squirt transferring the hamster from one cage to the other makes no sense at all. Hamsters are squirmy and can be difficult to hold onto, even for an adult sometimes. There is no way I can buy that a one-and-a-half-year-old has the freaking motor skills to open a hamster cage, pick up a squirmy hamster, toddle over to the next cage, open that cage with one hand while holding the hamster with the other, put it in and close it again! Are you kidding me? And do the Ramseys also keep their hamster cages on a toddler level? WTF? The comments about Stacey's towel fits were funny! My best friend and I shared a bathroom in our college dorm and one time I walked into the bathroom and caught her using my face towel to mop up all the water she had just gotten all over the counter, and I FREAKED OUT just like Stacey. Of course, I was actually correct in my accusation that she was using my towel.
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Post by wanderingfrog on Feb 19, 2012 15:04:02 GMT -5
I never thought about it before, but you're right, it doesn't seem very likely that Squirt would have had the motor skills to do that. They should've been just as impressed that Squirt was physically able to do that as they were by him realizing that the two hamsters were "the same."
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Post by zoar3 on Feb 19, 2012 15:21:21 GMT -5
^If the hamster cages was really somewhere Squirt could reach, its a good thing neither Misty nor Squirt accidently hurt one another, not good planning on the parents part. I never thought about this either but now that I am, was Misty's cage upstairs or in a rec room downstairs? I'm asking because if upstairs, though I don't see how it could have been, Squirt would have been gone from Jessi's view an awfully long time!
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Post by candykane on Feb 23, 2012 22:49:11 GMT -5
It would have been cute if Mal and Chris had gotten together in a subsequent Sea City book instead of lame Toby being interested in her. I never cared much for that storyline.
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Post by zoar3 on Feb 23, 2012 22:54:24 GMT -5
^Aw, good idea! I liked Chris and thought he would have been a good guy for Mal. Although it might have created a "sister war" had Vanessa still been into him. IDK, I wish Mal had a couple more shining moments in the series.
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Post by virgoscorpio on Feb 24, 2012 0:09:45 GMT -5
^ Vanessa and Mal are practically, like, the same person (jokes!) But I do picture them to look very similar. Almost like Margo and Claire. Vanessa being a mini version of Mal, but with brown hair, and Claire being a mini version of Margo. So maybe the storyline could be along the lines of Chris thinks Vanessa is Mal and hits on her and it all goes downhill from there!
edited because I spelled Mal "male"...hmmm...Freudian slip?
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Post by BuckinghamAlice on Feb 26, 2012 4:22:59 GMT -5
I agree MA is definitely to blame! What strikes me as odd too is that Kristy just takes whatever. She lets MA treat her whatever way and when MA finally wants to show her some attention she just laps it right up. This aggravates me because friendships take a ton of work and theirs was so one sided after Dawn came. I think Kristy really needed a new BF and maybe that was what Abby was supposed to be? I also hate how MA neglects her lifelong friendship with Kristy when she gets close with Dawn. I agree she really should have made more of an effort to spend time with both of them since they were both her "best friends." After a certain point, it felt like the Kristy/MA friendship was something we saw in Chapter 2 and were just expected to believe. But in Kristy's defense (in response to their friendship being onesided and her lapping up the little attention MA deigns to spend on her), I understand her. I've been best friends with the same person since I was 7, but there are times when she's drifted in and out of my life and she's focused all her attention on newer friends, but I still care about her and will always consider her a friend because when we do get back together, it's just like old times. And since I really hate putting myself in Kristy's position (and since that was WAY OT on my part, lol), back to the book. I enjoyed this book. Sea City sounds fun and always reminds me of the beach town where my family vacationed (even though it's in California and bears no resemblance to anything Dawn every droned on about). In a weird way I kind of like seeing MA like another boy (although I do like Logan)... makes them seem more like real 13 year olds. Kinda reminds me of how on the Patty Duke Show, Richard is Patty's boyfriend but she goes out with other boys all the time but neither of them consider it cheating. I hated Stacey in this, just like I did in Boy Crazy Stacey. Something about that ocean air ups her libido and makes her act like even more of a hag-faced b*tch than usual. I so wanted to slap her when she just assumed she could have two nights off in a row. I also thought the Pikes were being extra lazy and bad parents in this... I mean, if you honestly can't spend two nights a week with your own children on a FAMILY vacation, you probably shouldn't have had 8 of them. Vanessa was sweet in this. I remember being a little girl and getting crushes that felt like the end of the world. She was mature, and her scenes with MA were cute.
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Post by zoar3 on Oct 8, 2012 19:59:57 GMT -5
Vanessa scenes were the best part of this one. I would have much preferred a little extra dialog between her and MA to the Rodowsky chapter. It is too bad we never saw V and MA talk about Chris or MA thank V for her note (though I could see how V would be embarrassed by that) again. MA did sit at the Pikes a lot so there were opportunities for her to bond a bit with Vanessa. One other quick MA thing (amazingly for me) that could have made her character a little better to me would have been if she had taken the Pikes up on their late night chat and pie offer near the end.
The Squirt thing. Jessi tells us she was in the den. At first Squirt wandered into the kitchen for just a few minutes before coming back to the den. The second time, he was gone at least 20 minutes!!! This was when he somehow climbed the stairs to the second floor with Frodo in tow to put him in Misty's cage. Talk about neglect. At least Buddy was 7 when Dawn enabled Mr. Barrett to take him without her knowing. Squirt was a little over one year old. Jessi never should have left him alone for that long.
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Post by wiggir13 on Oct 8, 2012 20:48:13 GMT -5
This one cracked me up when MA was talking about her letter to Logan and how it had to be just right so he wouldn't think she was pining for him....clearly she forgot the letter she wrote him in ss3.
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Post by zoar3 on Oct 8, 2012 21:54:15 GMT -5
^Did she ever send that? I already forgot. I hope she didn't but never know with Mary Anne. If she did, yikes. Logan probably would have flipped out in one way or another!
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Post by starrynight on Oct 9, 2012 0:47:46 GMT -5
^ I don't think she ever really meant for Logan to see that letter...did she? I thought she was just trying to work out her feelings privately. Besides, there's no way that a letter could get from Vermont to Aruba (in a snowstorm) in the five days or so that they were at the lodge.
Back to this book: I liked the Rodowsky chapter, and I'm not normally a fan of sitting stuff. Reading about their burgers and fries and Jacki'e giant chocolate chip cookie always makes me hungry, though!
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Post by zoar3 on Oct 9, 2012 12:40:10 GMT -5
^The 6 page letter Mary Anne wrote she tells us on the top of page 66 that she realized it would never reach the Brunos in time before they left Aruba so she wasn't going to mail it. That could imply she had intended to mail it before realizing they'd be back in Stoneybrook when it got to Aruba. Lol, imagine if Logan got a forwarded letter from Aruba in Stoneybrook from MA. I'm glad MA did not send. If she had, I could imagine her, possibly with help from the BSC, trying to figure out a way to get it back (before Logan read it). I really didn't like the Rodowsky chapter just because it read (to me) like it was thrown in so there'd be a Stoneybrook baby-sitting chapter. Mrs. R really should have hired Logan or some male sitter so that he'd be able to go into the boys' locker room if need be. The cookie did sound good as did the fries but as others have said Kristy should have gotten the food herself possibly with help from one of the younger boys. It would have been interesting had this been a Claudia chapter and Jackie and Archie had all the candy and cakes on their tray.
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Post by starrynight on Oct 9, 2012 14:17:52 GMT -5
^ I've ALWAYS questioned Kristy's decision to let the boys get the food on their own. Who does that, especially when one of the boys is Jackie???
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