livvy
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Post by livvy on Feb 13, 2021 0:50:53 GMT -5
I shared a room with my sister and used the second one as a playroom . Then again we were kids
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cnj
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Post by cnj on Apr 29, 2021 11:21:37 GMT -5
I shared a room with my sister and used the second one as a playroom. Then again we were kids. I shared a room with two of my sisters growing up...it was sort of fun. Sometimes we bickered like Dawn and Mary Anne did, but that's the nature of all sibling relationships. I don't care how much I love my sister. I would never ever want to share a room voluntarily. Richard and Sharon should have stepped in at the beginning and insisted on separate rooms. I'm very glad Richard and Sharon didn't step in too early. It was good that however unconventional, Dawn and Mary Anne worked out the rooms on their own. It was so funny to see Dawn scare sensitive, timid Mary Anne into screaming her nervous little screans, then giving up the room and moving into the second room, although Dawn did tease Mary Anne a bit too much sometimes. I sometimes wanted to tell Dawn to take down the teasing a notch. That's the trouble when you have the helicopter and "snowplowing" parenting that has been too common in recent years...they are too quick to step in and solve their children's issues for them, instead of allowing them a chance to resolve things on their own. Only if it is not resolved after a month or so, then offer to intervene. I'm so glad the Stoneybrook didn't have a lot of helicopter or "snowplow" parents. I see Mary Anne as an adult teacher in NYC dreading dealing with helicopter and "snowplow" parents far more than anything else, even more so than dealing with gang kids, drug addicts and street crime combined. Solving many problems on their own helped the BSC members and their charges grow up strong, resourceful and independent by adulthood. It's so heartwarming to read these BSC books again and realize what a great group the Stoneybrook parents raised. πππππππππ
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Post by CharlotteTJohanssen on May 12, 2021 15:59:39 GMT -5
I was listening to a podcast about this book and oh my gosh Mary Anne and Dawn were terrible to each other. Dawn gaslight Mary Anne and never apologized and then tried to preach about being honest with each other at the end. Then Mary Anne outright says that Dawn is fat and shamed her for not having a boyfriend. I think listening to podcasts over the books makes me realize that Mary Anne is super judgemental in the series.
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Post by m0drnmoonlight on May 12, 2021 19:29:54 GMT -5
I was listening to a podcast about this book and oh my gosh Mary Anne and Dawn were terrible to each other. Dawn gaslight Mary Anne and never apologized and then tried to preach about being honest with each other at the end. Then Mary Anne outright says that Dawn is fat and shamed her for not having a boyfriend. I think listening to podcasts over the books makes me realize that Mary Anne is super judgemental in the series. Mary Anne's nasty streak always came out around Dawn. Remember when she told her to go choke on an alfalfa sprout? Then again, Dawn was being pretty nasty to her when she said that. Teenagers acting like teenagers!
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cnj
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Post by cnj on May 12, 2021 22:30:03 GMT -5
I was listening to a podcast about this book and oh my gosh Mary Anne and Dawn were terrible to each other. Dawn gaslight Mary Anne and never apologized and then tried to preach about being honest with each other at the end. Then Mary Anne outright says that Dawn is fat and shamed her for not having a boyfriend. I think listening to podcasts over the books makes me realize that Mary Anne is super judgemental in the series. Mary Anne's nasty streak always came out around Dawn. Remember when she told her to go choke on an alfalfa sprout? Then again, Dawn was being pretty nasty to her when she said that. Teenagers acting like teenagers! Yep, typical teenagers. πππ I re-read that fight and laugh so hard when Mary Anne says that about the alfafa sprout. Dawn was able to laugh it off. And in that selfsame book, Dawn was offering emotional support and encouragement to Mary Anne as they were taking the CPR course. Lots of their fights were funny...sometimes Dawn did tease Mary Anne a bit too much. I disagree about Mary Anne having any "nasty" side that "always" came out around Dawn. And I heartily disagree about Mary Anne allegedly being "super judgemental" in the series. She's no more judgemental than any of the other BSC members. It would be wonderful if people stopped pathologizing Dawn and Mary Anne's perfectly normal sibling relationship. Dawn and Mary Anne were typical siblings...I know because my friends and I grew up around siblings. I can write you novels about some of the sib squabbles we had growing up, yet today we love and care about each other. I am sure that today Dawn and Mary Anne laugh about the sib squabbles they had growing up.
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Post by CharlotteTJohanssen on May 12, 2021 23:18:44 GMT -5
I was listening to a podcast about this book and oh my gosh Mary Anne and Dawn were terrible to each other. Dawn gaslight Mary Anne and never apologized and then tried to preach about being honest with each other at the end. Then Mary Anne outright says that Dawn is fat and shamed her for not having a boyfriend. I think listening to podcasts over the books makes me realize that Mary Anne is super judgemental in the series. Mary Anne's nasty streak always came out around Dawn. Remember when she told her to go choke on an alfalfa sprout? Then again, Dawn was being pretty nasty to her when she said that. Teenagers acting like teenagers! Exactly, although sometimes I think dawn and Mary Anne wonβt be as close when theyβre older. I mean I vividly remember dawn saying she doesnβt miss stoneybrook in the CD books.
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Post by cnj on May 12, 2021 23:40:14 GMT -5
Mary Anne's nasty streak always came out around Dawn. Remember when she told her to go choke on an alfalfa sprout? Then again, Dawn was being pretty nasty to her when she said that. Teenagers acting like teenagers! Exactly, although sometimes I think Dawn and Mary Anne won't be as close when they're older. I mean I vividly remember Dawn saying she doesn't miss Stoneybrook in the CD books. I think it was that Dawn doesn't miss the chilly Stoneybrook temps. I remember reading that also, but it was not anything against Mary Anne as a sister. If Dawn had stated something akin to that it was a "relief" to be "away from" Mary Anne, then that would be different. LA is Dawn's home after all, it was not as if Dawn had grown up in Stoneybrook and suddenly moved to LA for the first time ever. Dawn returned to offer Mary Anne support after the house fire and Dawn offered Mary Anne emotional support by phone after Mary Anne's breakup with Logan late in the series. And when the Schafer-Spiers moved into their newly rebuilt house, Dawm returned to Stoneybrook and Mary Anne with Sunny. And all three of them offered one another love and support...and Dawn and Mary Anne were not all cold and distant to each other. I still think that Mary Anne and Dawn will always have a rather close sister bond despite their living cross-country that won't easily be discarded in adulthood. I still see them having get-togethers periodically, especially with their respective families and laughing over old memories. I just cannot see them having any cold, distant relationship or having any bitter, toxic, dysfunctional relationship. The fanfics that have Dawn and Mary Anne allegedly "hating" each other are so silly that I end up laughing at those stories.
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Post by sparklymouse on Mar 28, 2022 19:52:08 GMT -5
Did anyone have one of those platform beds that was like sleeping on top of a dresser? Her carpet looks like it is covered in ancient cave drawings. Dawn looks very pretty. Mary Anne is about to KNOCK HER OUT. That's a lot of steps to get into a random second story door/window.
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Post by booboobrewer on Mar 28, 2022 20:40:10 GMT -5
Dawnβs giving Brigitte Bardot and Mary Anne looks super dorky.
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Post by anzuhana on Mar 29, 2022 15:30:49 GMT -5
Mary Anne looks like she's ready to fight Dawn over a boy or perhaps she's ready to finish any fight they started.
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Post by sparklymouse on Apr 18, 2022 20:39:37 GMT -5
Jeff's just in the background not understanding girls. The boombox of doom. Titles: Dawnβs new sister Betty and Inge make the fur (? LMAO, cat fight?) Diane and her new sister Dawn has problems in the family
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Post by anzuhana on Apr 18, 2022 20:54:42 GMT -5
How is the boombox hanging on the door? Even if it's not supposed to be hanging on the door, it's still a strange place to have been put on the cover.
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Post by sparklymouse on Apr 18, 2022 21:41:18 GMT -5
It's not on the door. These covers have odd little pictures added. I don't know if the arrows are supposed to be like thought bubbles or what.
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oldhickory
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Post by oldhickory on Apr 19, 2022 9:22:13 GMT -5
It's a cool reference to their fight about music. It's the only cover to allude to that particular argument. Mary Anne even looks like she's studying. Dawn looks very pretty. Mary Anne is about to KNOCK HER OUT. I think a fistfight would have been cathartic for these girls. I'm rewatching Breaking Bad, and Jesse and Walt are constantly fighting and then just going back to work. Mary Anne and Dawn need the same thing because they are so passive aggressive here.
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Post by oldmeanie on Jul 18, 2022 0:01:37 GMT -5
I like this a lot more than Great Romance, but I still have no idea why both families didn't discuss things beforehand. They knew they had drastically different diets- why on earth were they ignoring this? I'm saying this as a vegetarian: it was unfair of Dawn and Sharon to try to "convert" Mary Anne and Richard. I don't know why they couldn't, say, have vegetarian-friendly sides and different main courses. Use your brains! Lol. The compromise at the end was fine, I just can't believe they didn't consider this before living together.
Why would Jeff even consider taking Richard's name? That makes no sense at all lol. Imagine how weird Jack would feel.
I keep forgetting to say this in my reviews... in an earlier Dawn book, she says that Trip is super organized so he's not a good fit for Sharon. Yet Richard is? What? Even as a kid I thought this was weird.
As a kid I liked Dawn scaring Mary Anne, but as an adult I'm just bothered that they never just discussed this. Dawn straight up says she does this because she doesn't want to admit she's wrong. Cool message, AMM, lol.
Reading the Pike subplot is a little freaky post-COVID. The sitters wear surgical masks and I can't help but get a little creeped out from the close quarters and all the sitters coming in and out. Still entertaining, but living through this pandemic will change you. I'm trying not to think of how they'd operate during COVID. What a nightmare!
I complained a lot in this review, but I did enjoy this one. I just think everybody acted like a doofus.
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