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Post by Honeybee on Sept 20, 2010 22:55:29 GMT -5
It was nice of Karen, having a Brother's Day party. This was good book to read. I enjoy reading it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2010 18:48:57 GMT -5
I liked that with Karen having the party
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Post by virgoscorpio on Apr 10, 2012 19:46:32 GMT -5
I just realized that Karen actually went weeks without talking to the boys at the Big House, including Watson!
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Post by Honeybee on Apr 10, 2012 22:52:19 GMT -5
^ I know. She's talker. Had Kristy talk to Waston for her. That one cracks me up.
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Post by wanderingfrog on Jan 31, 2013 21:52:49 GMT -5
Just reread this book and I loved it. Very immature of Karen to start the We Hate Boys Club and stop talking to boys, but the fighting between that club and Pamela's We Heart Boys Club was funny. Nice that Karen realized all by herself that was she was doing was wrong and found a great way to apologize to all the boys. The ending of the book is so sweet that I absolutely have to quote almost the entire last page here: I was even happier that Ricky and I were together again, though. I looked at my husband. "I'm glad we're friends," I told him. "I'm glad we're married."
"Me, too." Ricky was holding the football in one arm. He slipped his other arm through mine. We kept on walking.
"Ricky?" I said.
"Yeah?"
"Let's not fight anymore, okay?"
"Well, let's try not to fight anymore," said Ricky. "Sometimes people need to fight."
"Right," I agreed. "But let's try very hard not to fight. I don't like being mad at you."
"And I don't like being mad at you."
"Will we be husband and wife forever?" I asked Ricky. (I just meant until the end of second grade.)
"We'll be husband and wife at least until Natalie learns to play football," Ricky replied. He was grinning.
I grinned back. I did not have a thing to worry about. Seriously, it's so adorable that I almost cried.
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Post by wenonah4th on Feb 2, 2013 15:37:00 GMT -5
Though Natalie probably never learned to play football!
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Post by zoar3 on Jun 6, 2013 21:10:07 GMT -5
I wish Seth had not had a business trip. Do you think he might have considered coming to the Brother's Day party? I at least would have loved to read his reaction to his invitation. Related to Seth, I always thought both Rocky and Midgie were boys. On page 34 is when Pamela realizes that if Ricky and Karen divorce perhaps Ricky might marry her. Only she doesn't get to finish her thought at first. Leslie fills in the "And marry me (meaning Leslie)" before Pamela can say that. Immediately Pamela corrects Leslie by saying, "No, me." Leslie just says okay. That reminded me of Cokie and Grace. It was Grace who initially liked Logan. We never got to know Grace much outside of "Claudia and the Recipe for Danger," but it seems like pre Pamela Leslie was a nicer person. I am thinking she went along with Pamela as not to become her enemy. I also felt so badly for Andrew and was angry at all the adults in Karen's life for letting her treat him that way. He had done nothing to her and neither had David Michael who was trying to be her friend. I did like when Karen made a batch of plain cookies for DM. I think this was the first time outside of KGI that DM had a chocolate allergy. Karen's cards and gifts were great, too.
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Post by Honeybee on Jun 7, 2013 13:42:15 GMT -5
I'm going to re-reading Karen's Brothers soon.
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Post by Honeybee on Jul 20, 2013 20:08:26 GMT -5
I forgot the Brother's Day party. It was fun reading this book again.
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Post by Honeybee on Feb 26, 2014 14:42:37 GMT -5
I read this book again. This is my favorite book to read.
When, Karen ask her mom, if she can go over to dad's house. Her mom said no, until Suppertime. Why couldn't Karen and Andrew, go early over to their dad's house?
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Post by greer on Feb 26, 2014 15:18:46 GMT -5
I read this book again. This is my favorite book to read. When, Karen ask her mom, if she can go over to dad's house. Her mom said no, until Suppertime. Why couldn't Karen and Andrew, go early over to their dad's house? Hmm. I'm not sure of the context, but I've never really understood why the Engles and the Brewers were so inflexible with the custody arrangements at times, like wasn't there an episode where Karen wanted to go spend Mother's Day with Lisa and she wasn't allowed? That, I think, was terrible. Lisa and Watson seem to be on pretty good terms, so I don't understand this kind of behavior. I mean, Karen and Andrew certainly didn't ask to be put in this situation, so you'd think they'd be more understanding.
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Post by zoar3 on Feb 26, 2014 17:53:39 GMT -5
^Greer that made me so very sad and angry, too. I know Karen had not asked Watson if it was okay to spend Sunday Mother's Day with Lisa and that she and Andrew had seen their mom and Seth on Saturday. (This was in Karen's Stepmother, btw). However it sure sounded like Lisa and the kids were so excited to be able to spend a surprise day with one another. I was so angry with Watson for in a way exert his "this is my weekend" power by being nasty to his children. He could have talked with Karen at a later date, about checking with him too if she wanted to change her plans while with him, no need to be so mean. :/ I think this also bothers me a lot more because it does bring back some very unpleasant memories, nothing similar to that just close to home in terms of an adult in my life not behaving in the best way. Back to this book, sorry for the tangent of sorts, IIRC that type of conversation had happened before with Karen and Lisa. I think as long as it was okay with Watson and Lisa wasn't having anything special planned or was unable to drive the kids early, no reason why they couldn't have (in this book) spent a little extra time with their dad. ITA that the custody arrangements were way too rigid and not always very kid friendly particularly at times when either Watson (I'm thinking particularly early BSC books) or Lisa (in Karen's Copycat for one) had either a longer term changed schedule or something came up over a weekend why they could not have called the other before calling the BSC (or Merry, for example).
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Post by virgoscorpio on Feb 26, 2014 20:46:23 GMT -5
Also, Elizabeth has other kids that she would be spending Mother's Day with anyway so it's not as if she would be missing out.
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Post by greer on Feb 26, 2014 23:27:21 GMT -5
Also, Elizabeth has other kids that she would be spending Mother's Day with anyway so it's not as if she would be missing out. Yeah, but even still she's their stepmother. It's one thing to acknowledge your stepmother with a card or gifts; it's another thing to tell a little kid (or a kid of any age) to forgo spending time on Mother's Day with the parent that have birth to them and with whom they spend the vast majority of their time in favor of their stepmother. Like I am sure even today, when my brother and I are in our late 20s/early 30s, OMG, it would be like a nuclear bomb went off if we spent Mothers Day with our stepmom instead.
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Post by sparklymouse on Mar 2, 2014 17:31:33 GMT -5
Watson definitely tried to force Karen and Elizabeth's relationship sometimes. There was a scene at dinner once where the adults said something like there were no "real" "step" or "adopted" kids in the family. They were all equal. That's nice, but he also seemed to think that was the case with Elizabeth and Lisa. He didn't have his step-kids' bio-dad to deal with. I wonder if he would have felt the same if Patrick was in the picture consistently.
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