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Post by Kylie90210 on Apr 6, 2008 21:42:26 GMT -5
Okay, I really didn't get Hatey's transformation. Seriously? All it took for her to reverse all her rules and instructions (some which were ridiculously strict) was for them to waer their clothes backward? Hmm...
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Post by sparklymouse on Apr 7, 2008 14:34:38 GMT -5
Didn't she have a dress code for the class? Uh, you can't really do that, sub.
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Post by wenonah4th on Apr 7, 2008 15:08:21 GMT -5
It's a private school, so they can probably do more than a teacher in a public school can.
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Post by sparklymouse on Apr 7, 2008 16:00:59 GMT -5
Any school can have a dress code, but I don't see how a substitute teacher could come in and dictate what her class could wear while the rest of the school didn't have to follow it.
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Post by wenonah4th on Apr 7, 2008 16:20:55 GMT -5
I see your point...but each regular teacher can make her (his) own classroom rules to a point, too, right?
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Post by sweetvalleygirl99 on Apr 7, 2008 18:33:52 GMT -5
I thought the dress code was weird too, especially since they don't have the authority to do that, especially in just a particular class. I think AMM just added that in there for dramatic effect or something because that's just not realistic . Subs really can't make up their own rules, but they can make up their own lessons if they want to. Last year at my high school, the senior English teacher was out for six weeks due to family issues and the sub assigned the class projects and assignments that weren't part of the lesson plan but were still linked with what they were studying, which was British Lit (I wasn't in that class; this was during junior year and I had a senior friend who told me this) so yeah subs can do that, just not make up crazy rules. The one thing I didn't understand in this book was why Karen made such a big deal about Hatey Hoffman making the class walk in two lines, boys and girls. When I was in grade school, that was how we always walked, and then in middle school and high school we just lined up wherever or not at all ;D. However, I loved this book; this was when I learned the underwear song lol ;D.
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Post by wenonah4th on Apr 7, 2008 20:29:48 GMT -5
Oh, yes, we had a girls' line and boys' line at school- at least I think that was the way through several early grades. I know it was in kindergarten. In the upper elementary grades we made one line as we fell in.
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Post by scrounge on Apr 8, 2008 2:18:16 GMT -5
This book annoyed me so much. The rules that Ms. Hoffman came up with in the beginning of the book weren't realistic at all. Girls couldn't wear pants in "her" classroom, what? What is she going to do if a girl's parents sent her to school in jeans, refuse to let her in the room? Sure, at the end, she came around, but she was just so weird in the beginning of the book that I never liked her at all.
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Post by msstock87 on Apr 8, 2008 16:23:04 GMT -5
I thought the girls not being able to wear dresses thing was a little weird too, just because I didn't know if a sub could realistically do that. I did like this book and liked seeing Ms. hoffman return in other books.
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Post by alula on Apr 11, 2008 0:16:19 GMT -5
:shrug: Teachers can make up all kinds of rules undisturbed if no one complains about them. Now, my mother would have noticed I was wearing dresses to school every day and asked what that was about, and would probably have complained to the principal. But if none of the parents noticed or were moved enough to complain, it's unlikely the principal or any other teachers would notice something like that.
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Post by fluffycakes on Apr 14, 2008 22:23:17 GMT -5
Very true. I'm sort of surprised that none of the kids said anything to their parents. I never understood Hatey's transformation either. It was a little ridiculous. And speaking of ridiculous, what kind of teacher makes a no-talking rule? I get that she wants control in her classroom, and I agree that there should be quiet during worktime, but come on. They're not even allowed to talk before the bell rings at the start of the day? That's a little extreme. One thing I thought was funny/annoying was how in the end when she was being nice, she says to Ricky, "Why are you sitting all the way in the back, Ricky? All glasses-wearers please come to the front of the classroom!" Um, he's sitting in the back because you made him move there.
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Post by sparklymouse on Apr 15, 2008 14:45:27 GMT -5
I never understood the glasses rule anyway. The whole point of glasses is to make you see as well as other people. When they wore their glasses, Karen, Ricky, and Natalie probably had better vision than some of the kids sitting in the back of the room.
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Post by Penny Lane on Apr 15, 2008 14:48:05 GMT -5
^ITA
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Post by wenonah4th on Apr 16, 2008 15:37:13 GMT -5
I've thought that too. But it may just be a device to draw attention to the fact that Karen's not the only one with glasses in Ms. Colman's class.
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Post by Penny Lane on Apr 16, 2008 17:49:16 GMT -5
They made the kids with glasses sit in the front of the class at my school too. I think it's just one of those things that people do, like honking their horn in a traffic jam. Pointless, but it makes you feel a little better.
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