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Post by dawnomite on Jul 12, 2007 10:24:44 GMT -5
I don't know if there's been a thread about this here before, but The other night I had a dream I was little and going to church around Christmas time and my church had a bunch of BSC books and I was reading a LS one where Karen was talking about going to church and describing her church and everything and (thought my church was Catholic) she was Episcopalian. And I remember thinking "No, that's not right, in Kristy's big day Watson and Elizabeth where married by a minister, and Episcopalians have priests...) But anyway I always do view alot of people in Stoneybrook as being Episcopalian for some reason, and I was wondering though no one seems particularly religious in Stoneybrook what religions/denomination/etc. do you think the members of the BSC are/will turn out to be (other than Abby, whom we all know is Jewish.)? I have some theories and ideas. None of which are all that interesting and alot of which are based solely on stereotypes but I'm really interested to know if anyone has pondered this as much as I have, or at all.
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Post by Lauren on Jul 12, 2007 11:31:07 GMT -5
I think Mary Anne occasionally went to a Presbyterian church. I see Mallory as Catholic based solely on her large family. I don't really see the others as religious.
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Post by sotypical42483 on Jul 12, 2007 13:16:17 GMT -5
I have no idea what religion the girls are. I think its sometimes referenced in earlier books but not really in later ones, thankfully. I'm glad religion wasn't a part of the BSC, I would've been totally turned off. I mean to each their own, but I don't care to read about it.
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Post by starrynight on Jul 12, 2007 14:19:58 GMT -5
I know Claudia mentioned a church in "Sad Goodbye." At least I think she did. I always just thought of the girls as either vaguely Christian or nothing at all. Abby would be the exception, of course, but we've had the discussion at another time that being Jewish is more cultural for some people that religious.
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Post by aln1982 on Jul 12, 2007 16:16:48 GMT -5
^ We've had this discussion in depth before and I really promise not to get into it again ;D Only thing I'll say is that I think it would have been fair to equal out the Jewish stuff with at least a mention of some of the others being Christian and going through some of the Christian church ceremonies like First Communion or Confirmation. But I am a strong Christian and religion is not something I wish to debate here. I know MA was mentioned as being Presbyterian but said she didn't go much. Not sure about the others except Abby but always got the impression that they weren't religious. In fact, I think that might have even been mentioned. I do know I just read Mean Janine and Lucy Newton was Christened in a church and the Barrett-Dewitts were married in church and a few books mentioned Braddocks going to church group meetings. I was glad to see these references ;D Anyway.... not sure about this but I really am not sure this topic is a good one to get on with all of the conflict it caused before (at least for me - maybe I'm just not in the mood to argue tonight ;D)
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Post by liss31d on Jul 12, 2007 16:58:37 GMT -5
I'm not sure if Mallory is Catholic. In Keep Out Claudia, Cailtlin thinks she's Catholic due to her big family, but in general that is not the case with Catholics anymore. Most use contraception and my family's Catholic yet I only have one brother and one sister. I think the Pikes genuinely wanted a big family from the sound of it.
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Post by aln1982 on Jul 12, 2007 17:29:12 GMT -5
^ Totally agree. I know lots of Protestants who have large families, too. I think the big families are all Catholics thing is a stereotype and that's why it was mentioned in Keep Out Claudia.
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Post by mckay on Jul 12, 2007 18:00:24 GMT -5
I'm not sure if Mallory is Catholic. In Keep Out Claudia, Cailtlin thinks she's Catholic due to her big family, but in general that is not the case with Catholics anymore. Most use contraception and my family's Catholic yet I only have one brother and one sister. I think the Pikes genuinely wanted a big family from the sound of it. Maybe the Pikes were Quiver Full-ers like the Duggars. That's the only way I can explain a baby a few months after having triplets...
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Post by dawnomite on Jul 12, 2007 22:06:13 GMT -5
I'm sorry I didn't mean to bring up a touchy subject at all. I don't like debating religion either. I'm a sociologist at heart and I'm always fascinated by religion in that regard. I wouldn't say I'm irreligious, but I tend to see my faith as a personal thing so I totally understand religion being something one would hesitate to discuss. While we're on the topic though if I may...(solely regarding the BSC) I always thought it was cool in "Karen's Wish" when Karen and Nancy shared the orgins of Christmas and Hanukkah with each other. I especially loved learning the Hanukkah story at that age because I'd never heard it before (this was before the rugrats special). After I learned how to play dreidel in that book I got my family to play it during Hanukkah (even though we're not Jewish). This year my husband and I had a small Holiday party with his family and one of the things we did was play dreidel So anyway, I always assumed that Karen had somewhat of a religious background just because she knew the Christmas Story. And Lisa knew a surprising amount about St. Nicolas too (well more than alot of people I think...). Other than that and the mention of Abby being Jewish and Mary Anne (and Claudia?) being Presbyterian, I always think of everyone in stoneybrook as being semi-lapsed Episcopalians. Probably just a bad New England Stereotype though. And for this one (I guess I'll get a bit personal...) I go to Quaker meetings sometimes and I think Dawn would be very at home there. So in my imagination Dawn is a Quaker Again, sorry if I brought up a touchy issue I would never want to make anyone uncomfortable or disrespect anyones beliefs it's just something that always kind of fascinated me, sort of like sex and politics I guess. I promise not to start a "what political party would the BSC members belong to" thread
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Post by aln1982 on Jul 12, 2007 23:38:41 GMT -5
I also always got the impression that Lisa's family had a bit of a religious background (or maybe I just like imagining this ;D) and also liked Karen's Wish and the discussion of the different holidays. I've actually learned a lot about Judism from the BSC. Never knew girls went through something similar to a Bar Mitzvah. Interesting, though not my personal beliefs.
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Post by Amalia on Jul 13, 2007 1:38:08 GMT -5
^ I thought that MA and Bad Luck Mystery talked about how MA is a Christian, something about the meaning of the necklace or something. Anyways, I am probably totally off.
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Post by secondhandshoes on Jul 13, 2007 1:59:34 GMT -5
^^uh huh, and MA also mentioned in MA Saves the Day that they ask God to bless her mother before every meal, and before bed every night. I liked that reference because I'm a strong Christian as well, so it sticks out in my mind. ...MA did say though that she thinks blessing her at night should be enough
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Post by dawnomite on Jul 13, 2007 19:48:49 GMT -5
I also always got the impression that Lisa's family had a bit of a religious background (or maybe I just like imagining this ;D) and also liked Karen's Wish and the discussion of the different holidays. I've actually learned a lot about Judism from the BSC. Never knew girls went through something similar to a Bar Mitzvah. Interesting, though not my personal beliefs. I too got most of my information (early information anyway) about Judaism from the BSC. It turned out to be surprisingly accurate.
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Post by blossom114 on Jul 14, 2007 18:48:33 GMT -5
^ there was one thing that confused me .... I was wondering. I saw Postcards from Buster.... haha... and there was a Jewish girl that was having her Bat Mitzvah at the age of 12...did the ghost writers get that mixed up? or is it different for some?
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Post by Lauren on Jul 15, 2007 14:42:46 GMT -5
Blossom- Jewish girls are considered adults when they turn 12. I had my Bat Mitzvah when I was 12. However, a lot of girls wait until they are 13 to have theirs.
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