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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2007 20:09:53 GMT -5
when claudia made a new friend ( ashley ) they treated her like crap, and when stacey had a non bsc sanctioned bf they went nuts, oh and when maryanne had her makeover man they when catty, they did not like people in the group to experience personal growth god forbid one of them actually got their period or something, especially before the more sophisticated ( they so over used that word ) ones stacey and claudia, more claudia i reckon wouldve had them stoned to death, i can just hear claudia saying, but im so sophisticated why couldnt i get my period firsti bet its cos im bad at school,
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Post by greer on Oct 4, 2007 20:15:39 GMT -5
i'm confused.
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Post by macca on Oct 4, 2007 23:34:47 GMT -5
;D
Nope, no one was allowed to have a life outside the BSC.
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Post by aln1982 on Oct 5, 2007 7:54:16 GMT -5
Just commenting on the title of the thread, I can't criticize the girls too much for this (though I admit it's not a good thing) because I don't like change, either. I think that's why I love the BSC - they stayed 13 forever - and am even resistant to reading FF and would probably never want to read a "reunion" book if one was published. ;D
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Post by Sweet City Girl on Oct 5, 2007 10:25:29 GMT -5
Sometimes changes are difficult to cope with, especially at that age. When I was younger I would have preferred staying the same age forever myself ;D I never felt ready for changes that come with getting older. Even now I sometimes have these feelings and am generally more comfortable when things stay familiar and "stable," so to speak.
As for skippy's point, I think she was suggesting the tendency for some young girls to act hostile and mean when anything appears to threaten or change the security of their tight "group." Their reaction to Claudia spending time with Ashley outside the club was an example of this. I can picture the girls who were in my seventh grade class acting the same way, as they were also a very tight group that hung out together all the time and would probably feel hurt by anyone doing something different outside the "clique." The jealousy and anger comes from feelings of insecurity more than anything else, and this can be especially true of girls in this age group.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2007 17:22:07 GMT -5
yea thats what i meant, i just ending up ranting a little lol i did love ok still do love the books tho, im saving them for my kids
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Post by macca on Oct 5, 2007 17:56:56 GMT -5
Sometimes changes are difficult to cope with, especially at that age. When I was younger I would have preferred staying the same age forever myself ;D I never felt ready for changes that come with getting older. Even now I sometimes have these feelings and am generally more comfortable when things stay familiar and "stable," so to speak. As for skippy's point, I think she was suggesting the tendency for some young girls to act hostile and mean when anything appears to threaten or change the security of their tight "group." Their reaction to Claudia spending time with Ashley outside the club was an example of this. I can picture the girls who were in my seventh grade class acting the same way, as they were also a very tight group that hung out together all the time and would probably feel hurt by anyone doing something different outside the "clique." The jealousy and anger comes from feelings of insecurity more than anything else, and this can be especially true of girls in this age group. I agree with this. However, wouldn't you expect PC-Ann to promote an anti-clique message... for instance, when Claudia was friends with Ashley and the BSC were psychotic about it, instead of Claudia discovering at the end that a non-BSCer couldn't possibly be a true friend, perhaps the BSC could've discovered that Claudia was allowed to associate with people outside the club without having her room trashed.
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Post by sotypical42483 on Oct 11, 2007 14:46:30 GMT -5
I didn't care that the BSC were so resistant to change. I loved how cliquey they were. At that age I didn't have a cliquey group of one friends and I longed to be in a group like that!
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Post by macca on Oct 11, 2007 19:32:05 GMT -5
^ the BSC frequently denied that they were a clique, though
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Post by Kylie90210 on Oct 11, 2007 21:16:03 GMT -5
^ I know, that was stupid. They so were! I agree that they didn't seem to like change... so why didn't they object to MA and Dawn's parents? They didn't cut Dawn out when she left... It was the stupid petty things they didn't like...
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Post by sotypical42483 on Oct 12, 2007 21:35:07 GMT -5
There are a few instances where they acknowledge they lost their old friends due to the club, though. I don't think that they are deluded to the point where they feel they are all-welcoming to outsiders. I may have missed things, though, I don't pay that much attention
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2007 22:01:22 GMT -5
they were very critical of the other groups at their school though, in maryannes makeover ( i think ) maryanne realises that maybe it works both ways and that other grouops would perceive the bsc as snobby, i thought that was a breakthrough for her, but the other girls have allways been overly harsh and weirdly possesive if anyone tries to make new friends or break the mold, like claudia and ashley, when mal wants to go to the new school, maryannes makeover, and stacey with her new friends.
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Post by fluffycakes on Oct 13, 2007 10:47:22 GMT -5
^ I know, that was stupid. They so were! I agree that they didn't seem to like change... so why didn't they object to MA and Dawn's parents? They didn't cut Dawn out when she left... It was the stupid petty things they didn't like... It's interesting that in quite a few of the later books, they say "Mary Anne misses Dawn sooooo much," and not "We all miss Dawn soooo much" (though some do say that). It seems like they didn't really care that she was gone. I know that hearing them whine and moan about missing Dawn all the time would've been annoying, but you'd think they'd care more about their friend moving across the country than Mary Anne's stupid boy haircut, or something. It just goes to show that they were totally the biggest clique ever! ;D Gotta love them for it.
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Post by Sweet City Girl on Oct 14, 2007 16:26:03 GMT -5
I know it's off topic, but about the Dawn/MA relationship- I haven't read many books about them, but it seems like they had an awful lot of petty fights and drama when they were living together. It's amazing that they were soooo supposedly close despite that. I guess adjusting to the change of just being best friends to stepsisters living in the same house can be a lot harder than it seems, though, since living with a person isn't the same as just being friends with one. Maybe it was just like any typical sisters relationship, being very close but then like enemies sometimes. I'm an only child, so how would I know? ;D
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Post by anzuhana on Jun 30, 2010 19:09:07 GMT -5
Yeah, the girls didn't cope well with change. I can't blame them too much since at that age (or any age, for that matter), change can be difficult to deal with.
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