Amalia
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Post by Amalia on Mar 31, 2006 4:09:58 GMT -5
I think he was trying to mold Carol into that role. I remember him and Carol arguing once. Jack was saying that Carol wanted to do too much fun stuff (go to the movies, go out, etc.) and he didn't like that. So it seems as if he wasn't interested in Carol being the girlfriend he could have fun with but rather the girlfriend that could help him give a more parental influence to his kids.
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ktag
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Post by ktag on May 2, 2006 19:45:02 GMT -5
So I was reading about the divorce in SS11... I know infidelity is unheard of in this universe, but if anyone, Mr. Scafer would be my first suspect. I just got the vibe that the unspoken issue was why Jack didn't come home at night. And I thought it sucked that Dawn blamed the divorce on Sharon.
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macca
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Post by macca on May 2, 2006 21:47:39 GMT -5
^ Mr Schafer or... Elizabeth Thomas!!
David Michael's paternity has been discussed on a few occasions.
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Post by jen on May 3, 2006 4:43:22 GMT -5
Only because we're nutters, though
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Post by lilafowler on Jun 9, 2006 18:20:38 GMT -5
Yeah, Mr. Schafer was a DILF, but SS#11? Made him look like a total cheat. What else could Ann M. Ghostwriter have been trying to imply with having him stay out really late, sometimes all night?
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Post by Kylie90210 on Aug 9, 2007 19:46:48 GMT -5
I never minded jack, but he does seem preoccupied with things other than being a dad at times. I didn't like how he treated Richard in SS 14 though!
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Post by aln1982 on Aug 9, 2007 23:52:57 GMT -5
^ That made me really mad, too, and gave me a negative impression of him since I like Richard. I really felt for MA with all of his comments and was glad she finally said it was bothering her.
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Post by sotypical42483 on Aug 10, 2007 11:46:42 GMT -5
I hated that, too. Sometimes Jack strikes me as like, an over-grown frat boy. He comes off as very immature.
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Post by aln1982 on Aug 10, 2007 16:46:54 GMT -5
^ Totally agree. Not as bad as Patrick but he seems almost like the kind of guy who is a good "friend" to his kids instead of a real "dad". He does have moments when he seems mature enough but I like Richard much better ;D Just thought that I wonder if Jeff gets his immaturity (and his negative impression of Richard) from his father.
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Post by sotypical42483 on Aug 11, 2007 15:43:19 GMT -5
Never thought of that, aln! That is a definite possibility. Sharon started dating Richard way before Jack and Carol got together, I bet he was jealous. Esp because Richard is pretty much the exact opposite of him and was Sharon's high school sweetheart. I think I would've hated him if I was Jack, lol. Can't feel good for your ex to move onto someone who's nothing like you, it'd make me think that's what they wanted all along and I wasn't it.
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Post by anzuhana on Apr 16, 2010 18:29:27 GMT -5
I don't mind Mr. Schafer. What I don't get is why he let Sharon move to the other side of the country with their kids?
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Post by zoar3 on Apr 22, 2010 19:47:13 GMT -5
^That is the question Anzuhana. And why, (at least that we got to read about) neither Dawn nor Jeff either confronted their Dad about the fact they did not want to move and/or why apparently he was fine with them doing so!
I still say Sharon was completely selfish for automatically imposing that drastic a change on her kids. Unless Jack was abusive of her (or the kids) or the two of them had NO communication skills between them, no logical reason for uprooting Jeff and Dawn immediately. I can understand, particularly if the lead up to the divorce had been longtime in coming, that Sharon truly wanted to start over. For whatever reason she felt the best place to do that would be across the country near her parents. (Parents who lol are only mimially mentioned afterwards and to my knowledge neither Dawn or Jeff ever talked about visits to the Porters before they moved to CT).
At the time, Dawn was going into 7th Grade and Jeff 4th. I have not changed my mind in thinking that a better solution might have been for Sharon to have moved out of Palo City if need be but within the general vicinity. Heck even if she wanted to move an hour or so away...Depending how that worked out, perhaps she'd chose to visit her parents with and without her kids, to figure out if Stoneybrook could be "home" to her. If "yes" certainly during school vacations, Sharon, Dawn, and Jeff could have gone to CT. That would have allowed D and J to experience CT without (living there), (re)? meet their maternal grandparents, heck maybe even visit their potential middle and high schools. IMO, the cross country trek if D and J went would have made much more sense right 2 years later. Dawn would be starting high school and Jeff middle school. In any case, they would have had opportunities to make the choice of whether they felt at home! Heaven forbid, they should have any say and lol Dawn's 5000 moves back and forth would have been spared.
The whole thing just does not sit right with me. Perhaps also because Dawn's coming meant Mary Anne writing off her supposed bff Kristy along with her own personality. (after reading the prequel my opinion of MA has gone down).
Sotypical, wow, I never thought of that at all. You're so right. I wonder if the kids ever wondered about the match?
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Post by anzuhana on Apr 22, 2010 22:17:15 GMT -5
^ Sharon should've stayed in California for awhile after the divorce and she, Dawn and Jeff should've visited Connecticut so they'd know what it's like there. Sharon's moving was probably a plot device so she and Richard could get together. As for Dawn and Jeff not talking to their father about not wanting to move... Looks like even before moving, they don't talk about any any problems they have with their parents.
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Post by zoar3 on Apr 23, 2010 17:34:50 GMT -5
^They should have stayed in CA. I agree that the moving was to get Sharon together with Richard but that could have happened in so many other ways. Lol, well we know how "wonderful" and frequent the communication between the BSC Members and their parents are!
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oldhickory
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Post by oldhickory on Apr 23, 2010 23:04:33 GMT -5
honestly, i have NO idea where everyone gets the idea that jack is a terrible dad. i always thought he seemed like one of the best dads. think about it -- he's setting up life as a single guy for the first time in years, but he agrees to raise his kids single-handedly, both after just a couple of weeks notice. when they visit him he spends all his time with them and showers them with attention (that's what i imagine "disneyland daddy" means), and their opinion means SO MUCH to him that he breaks up with a girl he's in love with, just to make his kids happy.
i know a lot of you think he cheated when he didn't come home, but honestly that never crossed my mind. i always thought it was because he didn't want to create a hostile household and thought it would be best not to pick a fight. you know, like sleeping in separate rooms but even bigger. my parents used to fight like crazy, and i'm sure a lot of you with divorced parents would have chosen a peaceful household over the fighting. sometimes when you know a relationship is going down the drain, the best thing to do is to take a step back for a while. besides, sharon moved to stoneybrook and began dating richard in the SAME BOOK, so jack is hardly the one moving too fast.
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