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Post by aln1982 on Jul 27, 2007 23:25:24 GMT -5
Just read about her in Stacey's Movie and thought she was very ruthless. I wondered if she was like this in other books. I know she is featured in a few. Isn't she the SMS paper editor in Perfect Boy? I can't remember what she's like in that one. Was she ever good friends with any of the BSC (when they had other friends outside of the club)?
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Post by Lauren on Jul 28, 2007 0:01:23 GMT -5
I remember Tiffany saying she was editor when she reviewed Perfect Boy on her blog. I don't remember her from the books at all.
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Post by Amalia on Jul 28, 2007 0:24:10 GMT -5
she was also the school paper's editor in Stacey's movie. She was in the room where they do school newspaper stuff when Stacey goes to interview her.
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Post by fairy3lf2 on Jul 28, 2007 0:43:43 GMT -5
I was disappointed to hear what she was like in Stacey's Movie because I always really liked her.
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Post by aln1982 on Jul 28, 2007 23:30:28 GMT -5
^ I did too in Perfect Boy. She did seem a little eager but nothing like she was in Stacey's Movie when she seemed almost heartless (that's a bit harsh but hopefully it makes sense what I mean)
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Post by sotypical42483 on Jul 29, 2007 20:43:12 GMT -5
I barely remember Emily at all from the books. I've been reading celicas fics lately so my opinions of her are solely based on that, lol, which may or may not be accurate portrayals!
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Post by alula on Jul 29, 2007 21:28:12 GMT -5
I actually find Emily quite interesting in Stacey's Movie, and I think I feel more empathy towards her than most readers. She's doing it in a highly dorky and disproportionate-for-the-situation way, but she actually is articulating a basic journalism/documentary/storytelling dilemma--where do you draw the line between hurting or embarrassing a subject and committing to the truth of the story?
Admittedly, the particular place she's drawing the line isn't the shiny beacon of revelation she'd like it to be--these aren't the Watergate papers here, kid, this is a dumb middle school video project and there's not exactly a vested public interest in showing that footage of Mary Anne to the student body. (Although in fairness to Emily, most (presumably adult) producers of reality TV don't seem to make any distinction between relevant storytelling and exploitative voyeurism, IMO--her instincts are right that Mary Anne's outburst is probably one of their stronger pieces, in terms of being moving and compelling, and I bet if an adult documentarian was filming middle school kids and caught a similar moment, he or she would want to keep it, too). I guess I appreciate that she's thinking about it, and well, getting carried away, especially about your ideals, is a big part of being that young, IMO. She's not doing it to be a Mean Girl and humiliate Mary Anne and Stacey, or something like that--I really think she's doing it because she thinks she's being a good journalist who won't compromise on the truth, and I find it interesting and in a way almost touching for her to be that committed and serious-minded about it.
(Well, then another part of me just goes LOL middle school journalist, but whatever. But I was running a (totally lame, for the record) underground newspaper when I was in eighth grade, so student journalism is one of those things that makes me go super-dorky. LOL eighth grade me, too.)
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Post by aln1982 on Jul 29, 2007 23:55:43 GMT -5
^ Agree that Emily is acting like a real journalist but I don't appreciate many of their attitudes and find them harsh in real life, too. I won't get started on some of my feelings on the media here, though.... ;D What about Emily when she's not being a journalist? Do any books mention her personal life, friends, etc.? I'm kind of curious about her now.
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Post by secondhandshoes on Jul 30, 2007 0:54:05 GMT -5
I only know her as the girl that killed herself in BFF
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Post by alula on Jul 30, 2007 2:46:12 GMT -5
^ Agree that Emily is acting like a real journalist but I don't appreciate many of their attitudes and find them harsh in real life, too. I won't get started on some of my feelings on the media here, though.... ;D What about Emily when she's not being a journalist? Do any books mention her personal life, friends, etc.? I'm kind of curious about her now. Yeah, I don't really expect anyone else to agree with me--I think I'm just really particular about it because it hits kind of close to home. I was totally a thirteen-year-old who took myself and my ideals and positions very seriously indeed. (Actually, I mentioned running an underground newspaper before, which turned out to be a crazy experience, in large part because I took the idea of being a journalist way more seriously than anyone else who wrote for it, and in large part, and my middle school best friend and I basically broke up, so to speak, over it). Part of why I find Emily endearing here is that I do think she's wrong in this essence--she wants the moral authority of being Carl Bernstein or Seymour Hersh, where single-minded reporting is a check against the abuse of power, but she's in essence becoming the reporter on the local news sticking a microphone in someone's face and asking "And how did that make you feel?" when their house has just burned down. I guess it's that I appreciate that she feels so zealous about it, which I relate to a lot, and I think I also extrapolate that she feels so passionately because she understands the basic principle, which is a pretty serious value of journalism. (The problem with the media, IMO, is more a misapplication of resources than anything else--I wish the White House press corps were half as persistent as the photographers waiting to catch a glimpse of Lindesy Lohan). I, too, get fanfic Emily mixed up with book Emily, to the point that I'm not completely certain about some details. I do think, although I wouldn't swear to it, that she seems to hang out with the Austin Bentley crowd, which is kind of interesting, since in the early books those are one of the cool groups at SMS (or at least that's what I thought was supposed to be implied when Stacey and Claudia hung out with them more)--the super-serious school newspaper isn't necessarily the type you would associate with that. I also have the vaguest feeling that someone (the ubiquitous Pete Black?) was sending her a lot of valentine-grams or whatever in Stacey and the Stolen Hearts, but I'm not sure about that at all. I'm also pretty sure at one point she was on a short-list for possible replacement club members (when Dawn left, maybe?), but they crossed her off because she was too busy with the paper. I remember thinking that was pretty funny, because their discussion of who to ask was based totally just on what they knew about people from school. In a way, that is a very middle-school-ish thing to do, but considering how ultra-professional Kristy is, it's pretty funny they don't even consider the possibility that maybe some girls don't WANT to baby-sit. Like, at all. (I did, but I knew plenty of people who didn't--I still do, for that matter). There's no basis in the books for it at all, but now I have this funny image of Emily wearing little reading glasses and scrunching up her nose at the idea. "Small children? Er. . .I'm not really crazy about them until they can talk about Hegelian dialectics," or "Oh, you want me to read to you? Why don't we look at these witty cartoons in The New Yorker? And there's an essay by David Sedaris I think you'll find very amusing. . ." (It's 2:45 a.m. and I'm still waiting for a call to go pick someone up at the airport. I'm getting a little punchy).
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Post by booboobrewer on Jul 30, 2007 4:59:23 GMT -5
I always like any mention of Emily in the books. I think she was indeed pretty popular and hung out mostly with the cool kids, at least in the beginning...Pete, Austin, Howie, Dorianne. But she always seemed like the type to get along great with different kinds of groups. And I always pictured her with red hair, for some unknown reason.
The first time I read Stacey's Movie I did feel bad for Mary Anne that the only person in Stacey's group really willing to help her out was Stacey, of course. But I don't think Emily was ruthless or aggressive in a particularly bad way--just intensely, quietly eager to document some good, compelling stuff. And she's never portrayed as really very close with any of the girls in the BSC, just a nice school acquaintance (except for Dawn, weirdly--in fact both Emily and Erica randomly want to hang out with her when she's home for the summer), so it makes sense that she wouldn't feel any extra-special sympathy for Mary Anne. Mary Anne doesn't make a really big effort herself, anyway, to talk to Emily in person, she just uses Stacey as a channel. Emily's supposed to be the "bad guy" in the book, getting under everyone's skin during the interviews, and it was something I liked reading about, to be honest!
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Post by aln1982 on Jul 30, 2007 7:53:56 GMT -5
^ Agree about it being weird in the book (not sure which one it is) where Emily and Erica both wanted to hang out with Dawn. Always figured they just needed to use some names and picked these two ;D As for being passionate, Alula, I can also relate to it but am probably passionate about issues with the complete opposite of you ;D (and probably almost everyone else on here which is why I'd better not get into that because that gets to close to politics and that's somewhere I don't want to go on here....) As for Emily dying in BFF, is that a fan fic???
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Post by blossom114 on Jul 30, 2007 10:52:21 GMT -5
^ yup it's a fanfic I remmeber she's mentioned in SS #9 because Jessi is doing an article for the newspaper... and she kind of though Jessi was nuts about talking about doing an inside report from "Peter Pan" herself... because Jessi was soooo sure she would get the part.
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Post by liss31d on Jul 30, 2007 14:28:46 GMT -5
^ Haha Jessi was such a ninny in that book ;D
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Post by aln1982 on Jul 30, 2007 16:51:42 GMT -5
^ I remember Emily being in Starring, too. I think she also showed up as the "reporter" in some others. I'll have to keep my eyes open for mentions of her.
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