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Post by ashley868 on Jan 31, 2014 11:17:44 GMT -5
I really liked her when I was younger. I was shy when I was a kid, I still am, and it's even developed into social anxiety. So even now, when I read the books I can still relate to her but I don't like her as much as I used to. After reading about her character on here, and then in the books I really dislike her. I can still understand her shyness, but I don't see her as someone that is really that sensitive. A lot of the time when she starts crying I see it as a cry for attention or for pity, not just someone who is sensitive and cries easily. I just see her different than I did when I was 11/12 years old.
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Post by Amalia on Jan 31, 2014 11:22:53 GMT -5
I think her crying is just a bodily reaction. She doesn't actually want to. It just comes out.
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Post by CharlotteTJohanssen on Feb 15, 2014 2:06:45 GMT -5
Back when I first started on the board and when I was little I *loved* Mary-Anne. Now doing rereads (with the books I have access to) I'm slowly changing my mind about MA. I can't exactly place why either. I still like her and everything but now I'm starting to enjoy the characters I didn't like much when I was younger a lot more now.
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Post by fairy3lf2 on Aug 17, 2014 22:47:16 GMT -5
Reading the books again as an adult, I love Mary Anne in the early books and dislike her in the later books. I think a big part of that is that she loses her underdog appeal. In the first few books, she's really shy and kind of gets kicked around as a result, she doesn't have many friends, she doesn't have a very good relationship with her strict father and she has to wear dorky clothes. After awhile, her shyness becomes something that is said more than shown, she gets a handsome boyfriend, she gets another best friend, her strict father loosens up and she forms a closer relationship with him and one of her best friends becomes her stepsister. I think the writing is also not as good so her sensitivity comes across as annoying rather than sympathetic.
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Post by Natasha on Sept 20, 2014 23:40:16 GMT -5
She's my least favourite...shy and sensitive? Give me a break, she can be a B**** at the worst of times!
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Post by CharlotteTJohanssen on Sept 21, 2014 23:48:05 GMT -5
She's my least favourite...shy and sensitive? Give me a break, she can be a B**** at the worst of times! Not necessarily that particular word but she has changed. Like later in the series but not so much in the beginning. She started becoming more passive aggressive so to speak.
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Post by virgoscorpio on Sept 22, 2014 14:03:19 GMT -5
Happy Birthday, Ms. Spier!
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Post by booboobrewer on Sept 22, 2014 16:43:10 GMT -5
Happy birthday Mary Anne! No party, just well wishes for that girl
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Post by zoar3 on Sept 22, 2014 17:14:22 GMT -5
^At least no cake! Everything IIRC, seemed to be going fine until the cake and also presents were brought out. Maybe Stacey could have somehow told MA before everyone yelled surprise. MA did seem to be enjoying the party and talking with Logan. I wonder if it would have helped had someone said to her, not in within ears of all the guests, that this party was in part for her. Maybe that would have gone over better. Happy Birthday MA.
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Post by bscfan1997 on Oct 11, 2015 7:42:11 GMT -5
I liked the early Mary Anne back when she was actually sweet and sensitive and not as passive-aggressive later on. I'm like her in some ways, I'm shy and quiet and I cry easily (I'm not as sensitive as MA - nobody is, I don't think). I also like cats and books. I have to admit, she really got irritating later on.
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Post by andrew on Dec 21, 2015 12:45:03 GMT -5
I loved her when I was a kid and now rereading she's still my favorite (just over Kristy) even though at times she gets a bit too wimpy/scared of everything (even though she initially sort of liked horror movies, a good twist) or pretty spoiled (although all the characters do).
Her getting angry/running away from her party is one of my favorite moments, it felt particularly realistic/risky for a children's book.
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Post by cnj on Apr 14, 2021 1:50:57 GMT -5
She's my least favourite...shy and sensitive? Give me a break, she can be a B**** at the worst of times! Not necessarily that particular word but she has changed. Like later in the series but not so much in the beginning. She started becoming more passive aggressive so to speak. Really? Brows raised. To me, it seemed the opposite for the most part. In the early books, she sometimes was passive aggressive...that silent treatment she did at times was a tad tiresome, but in later books, she learned to become more assertive, even though she remained shy and quiet. Mary Anne especially lost that passive-aggressive side in Mary Anne to the Rescue. When she became angry at Dawn for tricking her into an embarrassing position in the emergency training drill, instead of merely giving Dawn the silent treatment for days, Mary Anne tells Dawn directly why she is upset, even when she cries. They hash it out, going back and forth, but they work out their fight and make up. Ditto in The Secret Life of Mary Anne Spier. Mary Anne is stressed and tired from working overtime to pay off a holiday bill and Dawn seems a bit mysterious. Instead of subtly retaliating by simply distancing from her stepsister as a passive-aggressive person would do, she speaks up and asks Dawn what is going on. It's good that she does this because Dawn has noticed that Mary Anne has seemed distracted, vanishes in the mall and has dark circles under her eyes. And they hash it out, talk, Mary Anne cries and they have a nice hug right there on the street near their house. And when she and Logan have problems again and Logan becomes possessive again, Mary Anne in her quiet way, speaks up and tells him what is going on instead of just sulking in silence like some partners do when they are unhappy with the relationship. Mary Anne's Revenge...Mary Anne directly stands up to Cokie's bullying instead of going behind Cokie's back and spreading gossip or playing some mean, sneaky trick on Cokie like some passive-aggressive girls would do. So, I say Mary Anne outgrew any passive-aggression by later in the series.
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Post by CharlotteTJohanssen on Apr 14, 2021 7:50:02 GMT -5
And yet in Mary Anne’s revenge she not so stubly calls Grace an airhead in the same book.
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Post by cnj on Apr 15, 2021 7:13:00 GMT -5
And yet in Mary Anne’s revenge she not so stubly calls Grace an airhead in the same book. Still, overall, Mary Anne had matured to be more direct.
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Post by andrew on Apr 15, 2021 21:32:10 GMT -5
I imagine that Mary Anne in high school would look just like Rachael Leigh Cook in her later She's All That (either pre- or post-makeover).
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