Post by virgoscorpio on Nov 20, 2008 14:15:15 GMT -5
I would have love, love, loved it if the BSC - or even Stoneybrook in general - had some gay characters. Even when I was in elementary school and originally reading the series, I thought that to myself.
Having a gay boy babysitter would have been pretty fitting. For one, he would most likely get along well with all of the girls.
Although I do admit that introducing gay characters would have been a little heavy for the readers. However, the character's ages - around thirteen, 8th grade - is almost perfect for sexual identification because they are all hitting the age of puberty.
I always thought Jamie Newton might grow up to be a gaybee. Just because, in both appearance and mannerisms, he reminded me a lot of me as a child.
Haley Braddock seems like she could be a huge d**e. Maybe with Vanessa?
But I do understand that all the ignoramuses would have found it gross. Perhaps some parents would boycott the BSC and there would be a big outrage that a gay character was mentioned in a children's series. But looking back on it, it might have been fun.
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^Well...I don't think she'll turn out to be..a 'gay' girl version. I just can't see her turning out like that. She knows her dad's watching her, and I don't think she'd want him to see...too much of a big change. And I don't think she'd want to disappoint him. I respect all gays, but, I just can't see it...and I don't think not having a boyfriend's an issue at all. She's still young. And I'm sorry if I sound crazy, but she's my favorite sitter and all. ;D
I also see Abby as the most likely lesbian of the BSC, due to her attitude toward Ross in Abby's Un-Valentine. Not that not liking one certain guy puts you on the train to Gayville, but her attitude toward the very idea of a guy liking her gave me that impression. And Rie, her dad seemed pretty liberal to me, being an environmental engineer who went to Woodstock and all. I think he'd want his daughter to be happy, whether she was gay or straight. I guess it's a cultural thing, but I was raised in a family that is very supportive of gay rights so for me it's kind of shocking to even consider that parents would want their kids to remain closeted and pretend to a straight lifestyle if they were gay.
I think that there were no real gay characters in the books simply because of the time they were written in and the target audience. Despite recent political events, homosexuality has made huge strides in mainstream acceptance in the past 20 years. Plus, ducky is super obviously gay with textual evidence to support it, and Jessi mentions sexual orientation in graduation day. Ann has also put gay characters in her post-BSC books.
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Post by nothingtolose18 on Nov 21, 2008 14:50:37 GMT -5
I have to agree with Greer about the reason why there were no gay characters (the time period, intended audience, etc.)
I know that a lot of people think that Kristy and/or Abby are lesbians, but I really don't see it. Just because they weren't overly interested in the opposite sex at the age of 13, to me, doesn't indicate that they were in fact lesbian. Of course, they could have been, but I tend to see all the BSC characters to be straight.
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I meant that eight is young in so far as saying whether an eight year old is gay or not. As I said, it is perfectly reasonable to expect that an eight year old would know they were gay, even if they didn't know what gay was. Two completely different things.
Post by firecausesburns on Nov 22, 2008 19:37:04 GMT -5
I knew I liked girls when I was 8, although I didn't really associate that with being gay until I was 12 or 13. I don't really get the vibe that Kristy's gay. Same with Abby. The ony character I got a gay vibe from was Ducky. A lot of people talk about Byron as possibly being gay, but I'm not sure.
Post by Penny Lane on Nov 30, 2008 22:33:19 GMT -5
I kind of get a gay vibe from Mallory, but I think it's because I really think Mallory is the character that Ann M Martin is most like in real life. I think AMM wants to think of herself more like Mary Anne, who dreams of being outgoing like Kristy, but is probably more like Mallory (especially since she gave mal her dream family)
Post by twirlyshells on Dec 1, 2008 0:21:02 GMT -5
Wasn't it always rumored that Ducky from the California Diaries was gay? Because they were published so late, I didn't read those books over and over quite as many times as the regular BSC ones, but I definitely remember thinking that. Or maybe just reading it somewhere in all the blags.
Also, I could definitely see Stacey as the kind of girl who likes to kiss other girls in bars and at parties, in front of other guys. She would totally be the one to make comments loudly about other girls being hot and proclaiming it was no big deal to kiss another girl -- just to get guys to beg her to do it.