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Post by aln1982 on Nov 27, 2007 17:37:45 GMT -5
I really don't think anything about Ann is an issue for me. I read the books because I like the books and not because of her. So maybe on second thought, I don't care enough to read the bio. ;D
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Post by greer on Nov 27, 2007 18:47:10 GMT -5
Yeah, at first I didnt believe it, but now I can see how she would be. I kinda feel sorry for her. I mean, she's probably has lost a few friends because of it. to those friends i would say: good riddance! ;D aln, i'm also not terribly interested in ann's life either. it has always seems to me that she is kind of boring and just watches i love lucy a lot. i just want to read her biography because the parts i have read from it were soooo funny. my need to read it has nothing to do with ann herself and all about me wanting to snark/laugh at it.
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Post by macca on Nov 27, 2007 18:50:59 GMT -5
I really don't think anything about Ann is an issue for me. I read the books because I like the books and not because of her. So maybe on second thought, I don't care enough to read the bio. ;D Yeah, especially considering she wrote what? A third of them? In most cases, her only contribution to the books was the name on the cover and her thanking Ellen Miles or whoever for their "help" in preparing the manuscript.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2007 23:57:48 GMT -5
I agree Alula, there should be a thread on Ann's biographie book
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Post by aln1982 on Nov 30, 2007 1:16:06 GMT -5
^ Did you see the one under the "everything else" topic?
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Post by greer on Dec 7, 2008 8:49:51 GMT -5
I think her partner is the woman she does the Doll People books with, Laura Godwin.
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Post by sugarandspicexx on May 20, 2009 23:19:12 GMT -5
I kind of assumed a while ago that Ann was a lesbian. Just got that vibe. Mostly because even though I know it's an issue that was and still is of fair importance to young readers Ann seemed big on divorce. And in Kristy's case especially it was the man who was at fault.
I also know girls do comment on how other girls look but sometimes the descriptions went a little ott - how amazing Jessi's legs were came up many times.
Having said all this though, it doesn't bother me in the slightest if she's hetro, homo or bi sexual. Sexuality has never bothered me and it doesn't change how I think or feel about her or the books.
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Post by BuckinghamAlice on Feb 16, 2011 4:48:56 GMT -5
it has always seems to me that she is kind of boring and just watches i love lucy a lot. Not necessarily a bad thing... I could say the same of myself. Perhaps this is why no one will ever write a bio of me. Or the bio could just be that excerpt. Note: I'm watching I Love Lucy as I type this. Anyways, I don't think I knew AMM was a lesbian, but I don't really care. Doesn't change the way I feel about the books. And mousy though she sounds, she still seems like a a pretty neat person.
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Post by zoar3 on Feb 16, 2011 12:52:04 GMT -5
I'm editing this to reflect a (hopefully) clearer message. The only reason I even posted earlier to this was to say "who cares what Ann's prefence is. let's get back to the BSC." Admittedly I could have kept it to that, short and sweet. Who Ann or (anyone) chooses to love, be with, etc is the business solely of the couple involved. If she found love with a woman, more power to her, I hope they are happy. My personal belief on the subject, what works for me, or what I choose to do, is just that: mine, for me. Period the end. As a kid, remember, I was "older" when the BSC books first came out. I probably only read a handful during middle school. When I rediscovered the BSC a few years ago and then these wonderful boards, I did remember more of the books than I thought but probably 90% were "new." I say that to preface my comment that when I read the books as a kid, I did notice any of the he/she, possible male angst etc, I simply enjoyed the story. Now, as an adult, and someone who probably spends too much time on here , Ann's he/she references have become annoying to me. I apologize for my use of language initially, trust me, that's not generally my style and I meant no ill will. From snowpeople to Gingerbread people to of course, "real" (actual) people, Ann and the Ghosties continuously used he/she to lecture readers not to ever assume the gender of whoever is male. I would have and think it's safe to say a lot of us on here would have simply preferred being shown this (valid) point instead of being told it. That was where my use of the language came in and sometimes exasperation. It's the same with getting fed up with the chapter 2's and how Kristy= a tomboy, wearing her "uniform," who was considered immature by some simply (mainly)? because of how she dressed. The "man" stuff, honestly I was more "annoyed" that every baby born (except both Daniels (Abby's and Nancy Dawes along with Ricky Salem) were girls. Also it seemed like most 3 kid families consisted of 2 girls and their older brother. I get that probably made it easier for the writers to remember families, I just would have preferred a little variety. Hope this fans this uninentional fire. Again I mean no ill will.
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Post by greer on Feb 16, 2011 17:53:22 GMT -5
What is "he/she c***"? c-r-a-p? I do find that the books present a feminist perspective and I've been meaning to write about it--I've also found that many of my peers in fandom grew up to be pretty strong feminists--but it's something that will take more research and I have to write my actual, non-BSC masters thesis.
I always figured that Ann simply has had little exposure to men, having gone to Smith and whatnot. I don't really think she has "man issues," just little experience with hetero relationships and far more female friendships. She has what seems to be a healthy relationship with her dad and nephew. I never got any sense of "man hate" in the books; if there were more male criminals or male deadbeat parents, well, that pretty much reflects reality, unfortunately. :/
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Post by u4me on Feb 16, 2011 18:48:56 GMT -5
It's always annoyed me that the girls always say "mailperson" instead of "mailman" and other things like that. I have never found it offensive for someone to say "mailman" or "fireman." I've always taken it as including all of mankind - which includes women. I'm not pro-man, but I'm not pro-woman either.
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Post by lilafowler on Feb 17, 2011 13:46:37 GMT -5
I don't think the fact that most of the babies born in the series were girls can be interpreted as part of some kind of misandrist agenda. I mean, the series was targeted to elementary-school age girls. Sure, some guys read them, and we all are reading them way past fifth grade, but they were probably just trying to cater to their audience. No one complains about the BSC only having one male member (that sounds wrong).
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Post by u4me on Feb 17, 2011 19:14:44 GMT -5
^ good point!
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Post by zoar3 on Feb 17, 2011 21:26:14 GMT -5
^That's one of the things I asked Ann that she declined to answer. I asked was the majority of female characters for marketing reasons (target audience). It probably was, just might have been interesting if there were a little more variety.
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Post by anzuhana on Feb 18, 2011 9:53:41 GMT -5
Zoar, did Ann answer any of your questions?
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