^I loved the party for James. ITA about MA and Dawn. At this point, it would have been better had they at least been honest with each other. MA could have said to Dawn that "you (D) came to mean so much to me so quickly, probably because you were the first friend I made and kept by myself but also I really liked hanging out with you." The "problem" is after Dawn moves she basically "forgets" about MA (and the rest of the BSC) while MA holds the move to an extent against Dawn, yet never truly tells Dawn, her feelings.
MA and Dawn's "fight," and inablility to "say good-bye," and/or be honest with their feelings, caused the internet connection to go down last night.
We really need to start (probably under "General Series Discussion," a "Mary Anne and Dawn, What were you thinking?" Thread. We could just scan in this whole book to start.
The beginnings of this are on page 36. Dawn has just told Sharon that she wants to go back to CA. "Telling mom was upsetting enough. The thought of breaking the news to Mary Anne was almost unbearable."
Dawn's melancholy, heart-wrenching (Not), agony of trying to write down how to tell MA starts on page 49. "I could easily imagine the stunned, hurt look on her face. I couldn't hurt Mary Anne like that. I just couldn't."
Page 56. "Nothing will ever change the way I feel about you." That was after, a long narrative about how close they were as sisters. (Wiggirl, I think Dawn is close (Although, ITA there is no “match” for MA’s feelings) to being as in love with MA as MA is with her.
Do you ladies think Dawn was even semi right in her tirade to MA on page 61? MA really (rarely) does anything on her own. Well except, stew about Dawn or "cry" so a BSC member will immediately apologize to her for something she said or did.
Page 71 does its part to add to the joint quarrel. "It was as I'd hurt her so deeply that any feelings she had toward me--both the positive and negative ones--had disappeared. It was weird."
I think what is also so strange and wrong is that, to me anyway, Dawn and MA come sound like an older, bitter married couple on the brink of divorce. It definitely sounds like they’ve been “together” for a very long time and one of them have laid down the final straw for the other.
Post by lilafowler on Jul 24, 2011 13:40:21 GMT -5
Zoar, it's funny that you compare MA and Dawn to an old married couple because I also thought of a romantic analogy for them, but a different one. They remind me of that boyfriend and girlfriend who keep breaking up and getting back together for no reason but the fact that it entertains them to have "drama!!!" in their lives. The MA/Kristy relationship makes me think of the person who mistakes it for passion and doesn't understand that a functional relationship does not have such "drama".
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^Their (constant) emotion-charged descriptions sure make them sound that way! MA/Kristy, I don't feel we (I) know enough about to really say. I think at one time they were close, then MA "chose" Dawn. Dawn leaves and suddenly as either Abby or Claudia tells us "MA and Kristy are super close these days." If I were Kristy, I'd be less than thrilled about being MA's "friend" again.
I always wished Kristy had (at least once) told MA straight out that she (K) felt like their friendship was no more. AND that the majority of the reason for it was MA choosing Dawn. I completely admit, now, that this wasn't Dawn's "fault" at all, MA all the way. If that had happened, I think it would make complete sense for Kristy to feel (even greater) anger toward MA once Dawn is gone and MA, suddenly came back to Kristy like nothing ever happened. Kristy and Anna had the potential for being good friends, at least based on the beginning of Anna coming to town. But then I also used to hold out hope that Kristy and Shannon's friendship would develop. All this is yet another reason I was disappointed we never got to read about Dr. Reese (the first time). The writers were too concerned about bringing Logan back into the books than giving us cause to actually sympathize with MA.
Mary Anne should have gone to Dr. Reese after the trauma of the house burning down, or talked about it in her Portrait Collection book instead of her Maynard, Ohio trip. That final story could have just been the end of Mary Anne & the Secret of the Attic, but not so long.
^ITA. I think MA's portrait or "Attic," could have been all about her past. We should have seen a glimpse of early Richard/Alma along with Richard/Verna/Bill. I hated that both were chopped up. I think if the Verna stuff had been more in "MA's portrait," "Attic" would have been the ideal place for MA to feel angry at Alma (and possibly Mimi, too) for dying. MA could finally have gone to Kristy's mom and/or Claud's. It bothered me that neither ever happened. But then, either storyline would have been automatically made better had Bill been healthy and part of the story. Maybe MA writes to her grandparents without telling Richard, just to check them out. Maybe Richard finds her in the attic looking at the letters. I know some of you think I make too big a deal out of male characters getting a raw deal in Stoneybrook, but this is another example of that.
Despite the complaints about this book, I actually genuinely enjoyed it (and am surprised at the extent to which I enjoyed it). As I've mentioned before, Suzanne Weyn is my favorite ghostwriter and I think she's the best voice for Dawn, so I'm really glad she wrote Dawn's farewell book.
I really liked the sincere conversation between Stacey and Dawn at the end, where Stacey tells Dawn that she understands what she's going through - that sometimes you're ready for a change but the people around you aren't ready for you to change, and you can't make them understand. And Dawn apologizes for not being more understanding when Stacey was going through her own recent changes (the Stacey and the Bad Girls arc).
I genuinely felt sad at numerous parts in this book, like at the various times when Dawn said she could hear a door closing and locking on parts of her life, like leaving Claudia's the last time. I thought it was cute that Dawn and Mary Anne each hung a picture of the other brushing her teeth on her bathroom mirror.
Mary Anne was indeed obnoxious in this one, but I hate to say I could very much relate to her feelings. Change is hard to deal with when you're changing yourself, but it's SO much harder to deal with change when it's someone else that's changing, and you don't have control over it. Like when I moved from PA to CT...it was hard to make the choice to move a couple hundred miles away from my home, my friends, my family, into a new state where I didn't know a soul. But I could deal with it, because it my was choice and I was in control of the change. But on the other hand, when I think of the idea of my sister moving away to a new state, a change I have absolutely no control over? I get panicky just thinking about it, about the idea of my friends and family moving away and me having absolutely no control over the change. So as obnoxious as Mary Anne was...this is one of the few times in the series where I completely sympathize with her crazy, seemingly overly-emotional reaction.
"This is what us sitters like about Mallory. She is totally levelheaded." - Claudia, Good-bye Stacey, Good-bye