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Post by liss31d on Jun 12, 2007 11:28:23 GMT -5
I don't think there was really a subplot in this book. No babysitting from Stoneybrook anyway! Just Stacey babysitting for Henry and Grace, but nothing really going on. Just Stacey making hot dogs for them, reading to them and at the end talking to them about why she's leaving. It was so sweet when Henry looked completely alarmed when Stacey told him that her parents were separating because they stopped loving each other (and that she was going to a "faraway place called Connecticut." ;D), when he mentions a small argument his parents had over where the keys are... bless, I used to be like that when I was kid, terrified whenever my parents argued over the slightest thing that they were going to get divorced.
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Post by aln1982 on Jun 12, 2007 16:23:20 GMT -5
^ Thanks. I might have to reread as I love Henry and Grace ;D Henry getting worried about his parents and other kids getting this same idea that fights always lead to divorce is what bugs me about this book. But I'm going to drop this now because no matter what the reason, I'm glad Stacey came back to Stoneybrook
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Post by blossom114 on Aug 9, 2007 16:20:27 GMT -5
oh dear i'm reading an excerpt on this on amazon and i just had to stop and post this
the "omg black!" isn't just for the Ramsey's.
*sniggering behind hand* sorry i wouldn't have given it another thought until i came onto this board. Thanks a lot you guys!!
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Post by mckay on Aug 10, 2007 0:39:20 GMT -5
I love how Stacey feels the need to be all BUT I DON'T SEE THEM AS BLACK! Stacey...do you look at them with your eyes closed? I really don't get why people feel the need to say they don't see skin colors. What about hair color and eye color? Is it racist to notice that those things exist?
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Post by secondhandshoes on Aug 10, 2007 1:51:27 GMT -5
hehehehe, funny story. I'm black and like Jessi I've grown up in an all white town. In high school someone was making black jokes on the bus while I was talking to my friend and I turn around and go "Hey! I'm black!" and my friend goes "you are?!?". She was completely serious too. Turns out the guy who had told the joke had forgotten as well because he was completely embarrassed by it and tried to explain over and over that he doesnt see me as BLACK. I don't see any of my friends as WHITE, just as my friends. I mean, I'm not like "Oh, and my white friend so and so". That could be because all of my friends are white though. haha. I understand what she means though. A lot of people tend to dwell on my skin color, and I think she's saying that she looks past it and sees them as normal people like the rest of the families she sits for.
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Post by mckay on Aug 10, 2007 2:44:58 GMT -5
Yeah, I see what you mean, but I still think that the fact that Stacey is aware of doing that makes it seem more like her protesting a little too much! If you're aware of your "colorblindness," how can you really be colorblind?
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Post by aln1982 on Aug 10, 2007 7:35:13 GMT -5
^ Agree secondhandshoes and thought the same thing as Stacey. I actually think it was a good message the books were trying to get across - that people are people. I don't think Stacey was claiming to be "colorblind" exactly but just saying that color didn't matter. She was aware of the color but it didn't affect anything (if this makes any sense)
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Post by sotypical42483 on Aug 10, 2007 11:20:51 GMT -5
haha agreed. When I read that quote I thought "Oh Stacey, how big of you!" I mean what does she want? A medal?
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Post by lilafowler on Aug 10, 2007 18:23:34 GMT -5
One of my friends from high school is black and I always call her my black friend, LOL. It's a joke between us because there weren't that many black kids in my classes in high school, so she was my only black friend. No one ever thought she was a maid when she came to my house, though.
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Post by Kylie90210 on Aug 12, 2007 21:21:04 GMT -5
I think it would have been better to, instead of desribing Jessi, Walker's etc as black, to call them African American and everyone else as Caucasian, Japanese American, etc. That way it would have been fair
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Amalia
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Post by Amalia on Aug 15, 2007 1:07:43 GMT -5
^ Agree secondhandshoes and thought the same thing as Stacey. I actually think it was a good message the books were trying to get across - that people are people. I don't think Stacey was claiming to be "colorblind" exactly but just saying that color didn't matter. She was aware of the color but it didn't affect anything (if this makes any sense) ^ Maybe in the 90's, racism was a bigger deal, like with the Los Angeles riots, Rodney King thingee, etc.? Maybe that is why Ann felt the need to point out that blacks are people, thingee? I dunno.
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Post by aln1982 on Aug 15, 2007 16:18:23 GMT -5
I 'm getting ready to reread so will probably answer my own question soon ;D but couldn't remember if there was a subplot in this one other than Stacey sitting for the Walkers. Is the BSC featured much before the end? I can't remember if there are any sitting chapters in Stoneybrook (but will answer my own question soon, I guess ;D)
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Post by booboobrewer on Aug 15, 2007 18:17:14 GMT -5
I can't quite remember, either. I know Stacey and her mom did some house-hunting, and there's a BSC sleepover in one chapter.
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Post by Kylie90210 on Oct 23, 2007 21:34:31 GMT -5
Everyone seems so surprised that Stacey's parent's divorce cam out of nowhere, but I really dont think it's that unusual. One day my parents sat us down and told us, and I had never seen them fighting. So somtimes it can be hidden well.
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Post by aln1982 on Oct 23, 2007 23:34:48 GMT -5
I've actually seen a lot of foreshadowing now in earlier books before the divorce so I guess it didn't come out of nowhere. Still, it was sad and I felt really sorry for Stacey. I'm so glad my parents are still together (getting ready to celebrate 30 years Monday ;D) so I can't relate but feel for anyone who can. I can imagine how torn she felt as I've felt like that in other situations.
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