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Post by sugarmonkey on Apr 10, 2006 16:20:55 GMT -5
Okay, so...After insisting that they didn't believe in chain letters (except for Mal and Jessi) they all suddenly start believing when normal bad luck happens. I wonder if maybe it was a subconcious thing. Maybe their awareness of normal "bad luck" was heightened when the chain letter they didn't believe in was broken and that just made the normal bad luck appear to be more than what it was? Then a strange package come's in the mail and they all freak because they are all assuming that evil forces sent it. (Well, I guess Cokie could be considered an evil force. ) I loved when Mary Anne was afraid it was bomb. It made me think of the unibomber. "You can never be too careful these days." Ha, imagine Mary Anne after the unibomber started making headlines, or the anthrax scare even! Anyway, I think they are all way to old to truly believe in bad luck and spells and stuff. At their age it's fun to scare yourself but deep down you know the truth. I mean these guys are suppose to be mature enough to watch kids but they want to create a magic spell to ward off bad luck? I wonder why they didn't just look up the charm to find out what it was instead of trusting the note that came with it. Um, why would unknow/unseen evil forces need to cut letters out of magazines? Why didn't that tip of the BSC? It's been awhile so refresh my memory was Trevor Sandborne really the one who made the phantom phone calls because he had a crush on Claudia? I always remember it as Alan Gray who had a crush on Kristy. I found it scary how the girls were trying to figure out how to sneak out of the house in order to be at Old Hickory's grave at midnight on Halloween. (Wouldn't that make it November 1 actually?) Charlie was totally willing to go along with it. Didn't even get out the car to check on his little sister and her little friends who were screwing around the graveyard at night. I know Kristy told him to stay in the car. Why did he listen to her? He is older! This book really bugged me in terms of Kristy's dictatorship. Her bossiness wouldn't bug me so much if the others would stop listening to her! And of course they never told their parents. Overall I liked it though. It was more interesting to read than some other books. I may read it again near Halloween.
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Post by ktag on Apr 10, 2006 18:03:11 GMT -5
Alan Gray stole the phone numbers and gave Claudia's to Trevor. Alan called Kristy, and he's the one who was caught by the police. It bugged me too that they kept saying it was Trevor and never mentioned Alan. I thought it was so dumb that Cokie even went up to Mary Anne and said "Nice bad luck charm" and MA never batted an eye. Hello?! I can't believe she actually wore the thing. Maybe I'm imagining it wrong, but it sounds bulky to me. I pictured it being this like inch and a half wide plastic sphere with a thing inside. Which can't be right, because that would look really weird under her shirt. lol By the time they went to the graveyard, they already knew it was Cokie, right? So we never really got to see how Charlie would have reacted if they didn't know who they were meeting. I like to think that he positioned himself where he would see everyone who passes anyway (he pointed Logan in the right direction). But yeah, it did bother me that the parents had no clue. The cut out letters wouldn't make me afraid of evil forces so much as kidnappers. I usually can't remember which books I read when I was a kid by title, but my memory always gets triggered by random little stuff while rereading. For this book, it was the chain letters. Oh, and Mary Anne and Logan in the cat suits.
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Post by sparklymouse on Apr 10, 2006 20:52:34 GMT -5
She's wearing the necklace on the book cover and it looks rather dainty and oldfashioned. Cokie should have sent her some weird shrunken head or something to see if she'd wear it.
This book has a good Mallory dork moment when they're on their way to the cemetery. She said she always held her breath when she drove past a cemetery but was worried because she wouldn't be able to hold it that long. Everyone except for Charlie tried to be polite and not laugh at her.
The two real mysteries of this book are why would anyone put so much effort into getting Logan and how the heck did the seven club members plus Charlie fit into the Junk Bucket.
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Post by ktag on Apr 10, 2006 21:06:19 GMT -5
I don't think Charlie had the Junk Bucket yet? I assumed they were taking the station wagon. Oh yes, Mallory was quite the dork there.
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Post by buffykay70 on Apr 10, 2006 22:14:29 GMT -5
i like this book and remember being creeped out by the chain letters and that necklace. and charlie is such a loser driving the bsc to the cemetery at night, doesnt he have anything else to do? any friends or whatever? hahahahha
yeah and cokie just needed to get over logan, he loves maryanne forever, hahah, well untill they break up in the Friends Forever series anyway.
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Post by bscfan24 on Apr 10, 2006 23:36:33 GMT -5
^^^^lol@the logan loves MA forever (until the FF series) part. That would make a great icon. LB+MAS 4-EVER (cross out 4-EVER and put until they finally graduate from 8th grade 10 millions years later). Seriously, I can't believe that Grace did all this just to see if Logan would drop MA for being scared. *rolls eyes* Doesn't he first call her his girlfriend in this book? I thought that was a cute moment. Geni
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Post by Amalia on Apr 11, 2006 0:52:21 GMT -5
What I don't get is how scaring MA would make Logan like Cokie any better? Didn't Logan develop a control issue with MA later on in the series? So if Logan saw that MA was scared, that would have endeared her more to him because then he would have wanted to protect her and comfort her.
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Post by inge on Apr 11, 2006 5:04:06 GMT -5
I know, what difference would it make if Logan saw Mary Anne scared? Who breaks up for a reason like that?? I liked this book, in spite of all the weirdness that is normal in BSC world. I can not believe anyone would be so crazy as to drive six kids to a cemetery at night. And I can not beliece Cokie & co. were scared by their own trick. But still, a good read
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Post by bscfan24 on Apr 11, 2006 10:47:33 GMT -5
I think what they were thinking is that when Logan saw how freaked out Mary Anne was over their prank, he'd think she was a dork or something and not want to be with her anymore- and I guess having Grace there might make him like her. I don't know- you know how twisted those girls were. Now I want to re-read this book. I might have to do that in the summer when my classes are over. Geni
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Post by sugarmonkey on Apr 11, 2006 11:00:23 GMT -5
I used to have a necklace exactly like the one MA wears. It's tiny. I got it from Kmart. It bugged me how MA's dad said it was a symbol of faith, but didn't specify faith in what. I know the series needed to appeal to all kinds of people, but the mustard seed is a symbol of faith because it was mentioned in the Bible. (If you have faith as big as a mustard seed you can move a mountain etc. )
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Post by booboobrewer on Apr 11, 2006 17:52:20 GMT -5
It's interesting how it was Grace who had the crush on Logan in this book but then in the rest of the series it's Cokie. Claudia mentions that there are girls who would kill to go out with Logan and MA asks, "Like who?" and she replys, "Like Grace Blume." Cokie might have tipped MA off with the "bad luck charm" comment, but Grace remarks that Logan spends so much time with the BSC and there are "other girls" he could spend his time with. Well, at least she's subtle about it.
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Post by jen on Apr 12, 2006 6:46:59 GMT -5
I loved the graveyard scene in this book! If you ignore the fact that Charlie let them go by themselves (though I suppose they knew they weren't in real danger, and had told Charlie), then the trick that they pulled was great! I loved how everything was so well planned and co-ordinated.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2006 1:36:20 GMT -5
Since the girls were out and about on Halloween night, I'd take it was a weekend. So...Charlie decided he'd just occupy his weekend night driving to pick up all of Kristy's friends at 10:30ish and taking them to the cemetry and waiting until after midnight for the girls to carry out their plans.
Boy, the more I read, the more Charlie sounds like a loser. Or, maybe he had a thing for one of his sister's friends. Probably Stacey. Then he and Sam could fight over her.
I can see Grace and Cokie's friendship as a rivalry friendship. Cokie set her sights on Logan the moment Grace couldn't get him.
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Post by Amalia on Apr 20, 2006 1:40:52 GMT -5
Ah man I was way off. I had thought it was Cokie who liked Logan in this one. So was it Grace who made the plan to scare them? I forgot.
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Post by macca on Apr 20, 2006 16:29:02 GMT -5
Just finished reading this one and word to most of the above comments, particularly regarding Charlie and his need for a life. Also, was it just me, or was this book insanely predictable? Maybe because I knew the outcome ahead of time, but seriously... how many hints and clues did they want to give us? MA was such a dumbass at the dance when Cokie mentioned something about her necklace being a bad-luck charm and the answer to the mystery didn't even occur to her until much later. Ha, your theory makes sense, except Stacey was still in NYC in this book. The funny thing is, I always pictured Charlie as the cool, handsome, mature older brother and Sam as a pimple-faced, pervy loser. Obviously these perceptions are totally wrong. I guess we're just made to believe that Charlie is the nice one who drives Kristy around and Sam is the annoying one who made prank phone calls in the beginning of the series. As for Mallory's extreme dorkiness in the graveyard... all I can do is
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