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Post by zoar3 on Feb 5, 2013 18:37:00 GMT -5
^At least not in the forms we knew them as. Remember how Stacey imagined herself as "French Stacey" at the beginning of "Stacey and the Mystery of the Empty House?" Oldhickory, Richard has a big "fan" in me. I wish we had gotten to read other instances of him and Mary Anne hanging out. I also did enjoy Dawn's chat with her dad in "Dawn on the Coast" when Jack asked about the secret passage. (Starts on Page 66) I also completely agree that like in "Wicked Stepsister," he and Sharon should have stepped in. I know, we all do, that Stoneybrook parents can be oblivious to what is going on in the kid's lives. I just think it would be awful hard to not hear not to mention notice that suddenly two close sisters were either constantly ignoring, goading, or plain throwing a nasty remark toward one another.
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wanderingfrog
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Post by wanderingfrog on Feb 7, 2013 21:39:54 GMT -5
^Pretty much any time I see or hear the word "goading" I think of the part in Baby-sitters on Board! where Claudia thinks the word is "goating."
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Post by zoar3 on Feb 7, 2013 22:45:18 GMT -5
^ I thought of that, too when I wrote the post. Maybe it should have been goating (as in who got to baby-sit for) since the BSC were such Elvira fans.
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Post by supprazz on Feb 8, 2013 8:28:43 GMT -5
Richard was always interesting to me. I've always liked him and his habits (colour arranging his socks! and eh eh) too and reading about his interactions with Mary Anne when she was a little kid and during this book, but I still don't understand why he wouldn't let her wear purple nailpolish or got upset about her wanting to redo her room at first though that could have been her coming off as rude without realizing too. I wondered at one point if he was OCD or got triggered easily by still missing Alma and certain things about Mary Anne reminded him of her.
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Post by booboobrewer on Mar 30, 2013 17:15:08 GMT -5
I love the part where Mary Anne is making her bacon and French toast breakfast, and a piece of bacon falls off her plate and she picks it up and eats it...Dawn says "gross," and Mary Anne just says "good morning." I laugh every time ;D
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Post by candykane on Mar 30, 2013 17:30:50 GMT -5
Bacon and French toast sounds pretty darn great for a weekday breakfast. I never had time to whip up stuff like that before school, since I always stayed in bed as long as possible. ;D Guess that's the downside of being a night owl.
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Post by celaeno on Sept 15, 2013 20:37:58 GMT -5
Has anyone else ever read any books in the Amelia's notebooks series? I had read two of them, and I like them a lot - they're books I would like to see future children of mine reading. But today I read a third one, The All-New Amelia, that I had found at a thrift store, and it left a bad taste in my mouth, particularly because it kept making me think of Mary Anne's Makeover. In it, Amelia tries to change herself by doing things like starting to paint her nails. Her BFF Carly gets really mad at her for trying to change herself and doing silly things like wearing nail polish, and they stop talking. In the end, Amelia decides to go back to her old self, apologizes to Carly that she tried to change herself, Carly forgives her, and they become BFFs again. Anyway, I didn't like that message, and in a way it seemed worse than Mary Anne's Makeover, because in MAM at least the BSC felt some remorse for their actions and apologized. In The All-New Amelia, the message seems to be that Carly was right to be harsh to Amelia. The message seems to be "Hey girls, if your friend starts showing an interest in clothes or make-up, you are totally justified in being mean to her and stopping talking to her. She needs to apologize to you for trying to change her appearance."
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Post by supprazz on Sept 15, 2013 23:09:05 GMT -5
Sounds like the wrong message for sure, jealousy sucks You know what would have been funny? If Mary Anne told Dawn her makeup looked fine while it looked horrible, and let her go looking like a ghost after all, and still telling her Pete Black is going to faint when he sees her I know that's really mean, but Dawn was really out of line, and I agree the parents should have stepped in though the daddy issues didn't come up till the very end. It just would have been funny after how Dawn scared Mary Anne out of her room cause of Jared the ghost
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Post by candykane on Sept 18, 2013 9:21:24 GMT -5
I thought of the time Jessi got mad at Mallory for dyeing her hair blonde in California Girls and how it was sort of a reverse situation of MA's Makeover. In California Girls, Jessi was the only one who was truly mad about Mallory's hair and all the other girls were just "eh, whatever." Well, at least they were until it came time to snap Mallory out of her funk, but they were never really angry. The line about how Jessi was "absolutely simmering" always stuck with me.
Then in this book, Mary Anne gets her makeover and all the girls except for Mallory and Jessi treat her harshly. They always tried to stay out of it whenever the older girls had fights or disagreements.
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Post by Manta on Apr 11, 2014 18:25:15 GMT -5
I just finished reading Mary Anne's Makeover. Boy, the rest of the BSC (except Jessi and Mallory) were such jerks! It's Mary Anne's hair; she can do what she wants with it. I kinda understood why Dawn acted like that (the dad stuff), but she was still really mean.
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Post by Sideshowjazz1 on Jun 24, 2014 21:02:43 GMT -5
OK, I didn't get why the babysitters were being so mean to Mary Anne about a haircut and makeup. So Dawn had a reason...a really weak one. But Kristy, Claudia and Stacey were bitchy because...they didn't think she should have gotten the haircut, clothes or makeup? No wonder Mary Anne stopped coming to meetings, and skipped out on shopping with Kristy to hang out with Logan. Why was it Mary Anne's two best friends were the worst about her new look? She doesn't have to ask if her friends approve of what she looks like, yes, Dawn, I'm looking at you! And Sabrina Bouvier...is the a seven-year-old girl who goes into beauty pageants (Little Miss Stoneybrook...and Dawn) or a middle school popular girl?
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Post by booboobrewer on Jun 24, 2014 22:10:00 GMT -5
And Sabrina Bouvier...is the a seven-year-old girl who goes into beauty pageants (Little Miss Stoneybrook...and Dawn) or a middle school popular girl? Both, obviously.
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scrounge
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Post by scrounge on Jun 26, 2014 14:28:11 GMT -5
I mean, it's a pretty common name. Doesn't everyone know three or four people named Sabrina Bouvier?
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Post by starrynight on Jun 27, 2014 0:41:04 GMT -5
It's my real name.
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Post by fluffernutter on Jul 11, 2014 10:12:17 GMT -5
Anybody here seen the movie Odd Girl Out? Just checked out the Wikipedia page and realized it could be a perfect crossover with this book.
"Vanessa Snyder Mary Anne Spier is a well-respected eighth grader in her school. She has a loving single mother recently remarried father, Barbara Richard, who is proud of her his academically and (somewhat) socially successful daughter. Vanessa Mary Anne is also "in" with the popular clique BSC, which consists of her best friend Stacy Larson Kristy Thomas, the queen bee President, and Nikki Rodriguez Claudia Kishi, who is secretly jealous of the bond between her two friends. On the exterior of the circle Also in the club is the outsider sophisticated New York girl, Emily Stacey, and the "wannabe," "individual," Tiffany Thompson Dawn Read, who is dying to make it into still fairly insecure about her position in the group.
One day, Nikki tricks Vanessa into getting close to a boy whom Stacy has a crush on Mary Anne gets a haircut and goes shopping with her dad without the BSC's approval. A web of lies, nasty rumors, and manipulation ensues, and Vanessa Mary Anne is ostracized by the clique BSC [...] Although Nikki Dawn is the main bully, Stacy Kristy plays her part by pretending she's still Vanessa's Mary Anne's friend and not stopping the attacks. Vanessa Mary Anne is slowly pushed out of class club activities, socially isolated and her tormentors create a "Hating Vanessa" website that bashes her quits the club."
Of course, I would write Mary Anne as more sympathetic (not jumping to conclusions and actually trying to talk to Kristy). Also, considering how uninvolved Mallory and Jessi are, I'd take advantage of the time warp to put this book after Jessi and the Bad Babysitter, so they could both get fed up and quit.
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