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Post by zoar3 on Sept 25, 2012 21:42:36 GMT -5
Thanks, Celaeno. Scary looking almost like bursting out of the underground which I guess is what it is. Also doesn't look too safe going down from the outside. Later in the book it does say that Claudia went up 2 flights of stairs to her bedroom (she needed a big glue jug for the art class). That makes it sound (safer somehow to me) like the Pikes' rec room which led directly out to their backyard. Claudia went up one flight basement to first floor and then first floor to her bedroom on the 2nd story. Anyway, I appreciate you taking the time to find the picture.
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Post by celaeno on Sept 25, 2012 22:31:43 GMT -5
^I hadn't given it any thought before, but I guess basements with cellar doors are more common in the northeast US than in other parts of the country. Having been born and raised in the NE, I've known some houses with those kind of doors, but only on older houses - I don't think I've ever seen a newer house with that kind of cellar entryway.
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Post by zoar3 on Sept 26, 2012 9:49:47 GMT -5
^Maybe Ann thought it would sound secret passage-like? Dawn's barn "door" in the floor was what I thought of though I know that entrance was much less visible.
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Post by wiggir13 on Sept 26, 2012 20:13:31 GMT -5
I have never heard of a burial before a funeral? Anyone else seen this?
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Post by zoar3 on Sept 26, 2012 21:49:27 GMT -5
^That was odd. In my experience, everything takes place at the cemetary. Depending on the wishes of the deceased, there usually is some type of religious officiant who along with family members say a few words before the burial. Afterward, is the opportunity for a longer sermon and/or tributes. Sometimes, on the one year anniversary of whoever passed away, a smaller group of people will even gather back at the cemetary for the memorial service. I wonder if the girls' had aged if this would have been done for Mimi? Thinking about it, it's sort of sad (I realize the fact that the ghosties didn't want us to remember time) that the Kishis to our knowledge never spoke much of her at home (other than Claud's chapter 2 comments). I could totally see Claudia and Janine having a Mimi talk and Janine possibly feeling regret that she had not taken the time to get to know Mimi better. I would have loved reading some memories of Mimi shared by Rioko and other family members. I absolutely hate that Ann killed Mimi off. Nothing will or would change that, same with Louie. However, if either was honored (to our knowledge) a little more it would have helped (me, anyway).
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Post by starrynight on Sept 27, 2012 17:35:00 GMT -5
^ Both my aunt and my grandmother were buried before their memorial services. My aunt was buried privately and we had a service in a church later, while my grandmother had a graveside service for close family and a church service a few weeks later.
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Post by candykane on Sept 27, 2012 18:05:42 GMT -5
When my father-in-law died back in February, we did a private family burial and held the memorial service four days later.
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Post by wenonah4th on Dec 9, 2013 19:25:54 GMT -5
Usually a memorial service is noticeably later than a funeral would be.
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Post by greer on Dec 9, 2013 19:54:56 GMT -5
I have never heard of a burial before a funeral? Anyone else seen this? A lot of the time it's done this way if the person was cremated.
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Post by wenonah4th on Dec 10, 2013 12:36:28 GMT -5
In which case there may be an urn at the service, which is really weird. That's what was done when my grandmother died and I found it very strange.
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Post by mallorypike on Jan 12, 2014 2:28:11 GMT -5
I could definitely relate to Claudia in this book when Mimi died. I liked how she didn't burst into tears whenever she thought of Mimi. It's not wrong, of course. There are different ways to mourn. I noticed that when a member in my family dies each time my reaction is different. Like when my aunt died seven years ago, I cried a lot. We weren't that close although we had a lot of special moments. But when my favorite grandmother died three years ago, I didn't cry. My reaction was like Claudia's.
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Post by ashley868 on Jan 12, 2014 7:59:06 GMT -5
I didn't really find it too odd by Claudia's reaction either. I'm not one to react right away to death either, and apparently I've been like that most of my life. When one of my friends died a few years ago, I didn't react and I thought maybe something was wrong with me. I thought maybe we weren't as close I thought we were. I was sad, but I just couldn't cry. And then one day when I was vaccuming of all things, that's when it hit me and I just started bawling for a long time. And that was probably a month or so after it happened. My mom said I was the same way when my dad died. I was six years old when he died, and you'd think I'd react right away. My sister did. However, it took me a few weeks until I really understood and I guess I flipped out. I don't even remember the months after his death. But I started crying a lot, and hitting a lot. I was very angry and I had to see the school therapist for a bit. I'm like that too when one of my pets die, I feel sad at first but it takes a while before it fully hits me. I can be doing any random thing and I will suddenly just get really sad. I was like that when I had to put my cat down. I got really upset at work about three weeks later.
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Post by Honeybee on Jan 12, 2014 14:15:05 GMT -5
When my late grandma passed away. I didn't cried. I was sad about her death. I did cried two days before she passed away. I just don't like crying in front of other people. I have to do it alone, like in my room. The only time, I cried was at my nephew's funeral. (he was stillborn.) Most of time, I don't cried. People grief differently.
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Post by Sideshowjazz1 on Jun 14, 2014 2:11:18 GMT -5
This book did bring tears to my eyes the first time I read it. It does seem like a very real reaction to grief. But it's probably especially effective with people who know the early books well, because you do get to like Mimi and it is sad. Note: I think I read somewhere that the original title for this book was "Claudia and the Death Of Mimi". No wonder they changed it!
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Post by Honeybee on Jun 14, 2014 15:38:49 GMT -5
^Yeah, don't want to scared the kids away. The parents, will probably have a fit about the title of the book.
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