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Post by wenonah4th on Feb 14, 2012 17:47:23 GMT -5
What even made them t hink of the 40s students thing?!
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Post by virgoscorpio on Feb 14, 2012 22:05:22 GMT -5
^ This post was bumped up in good time because I'm re-reading it again right now. I noticed the '40s thing too and just figured that was Ann coming through in the book, as if that's something dorky that *she* would do that with her teenage friends.
Also, I just realized that this book is the introduction of The Rosebud Cafe.
Love the cover. It's one of my favs.
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Post by booboobrewer on Feb 15, 2012 0:17:21 GMT -5
I noticed the '40s thing too and just figured that was Ann coming through in the book, as if that's something dorky that *she* would do that with her teenage friends. Definitely. Love the cover too, I always thought Dawn looked so pretty on it. I love reading about the Rosebud.
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Post by virgoscorpio on Feb 15, 2012 11:06:52 GMT -5
^ Dawn does look super cute. I think this cover and Mallory on Strike are some of my favourite portrayals of her!
I love this book! It's definitely up there in my favourites. Stacey is really caring and sweet in this and I think she's a really good and responsible daughter. I love her outfit that she buys in the beginning of the book an wears to Ed's award dinner -- one of my favourite BSC outfits, too. In fact, I think it would still be fashionable today! I also love that this is one of the mid-series books that Ann actually wrote herself. You can tell by the little things added in. For example, I forgot about how Sam surprises Stacey after school but she can't hang out with him because she has to take the train to NYC. I wonder why nothing really happened between them...it just fizzled out. I get how that happens when you're a teen, but because Stacey was close friends with Kristy you would think something more could have happened. Maybe it was the case of Ann pushing that herself but ghosties forgetting about it, therefore not putting it in the books.
I actually felt sorry for Ed in this one. It got me to thinking how, in many cases, men do lose out on time with their kids in divorce cases. Sometimes it's fair, sometimes it isn't. I just felt bad for Ed knowing that Stacey was all that he had (at that time) and she couldn't even be there to support him fully. Not that it was really Stacey or Maureen's fault, it's just the way the cookie crumbled.
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Post by starrynight on Feb 15, 2012 14:30:31 GMT -5
^ Things DID happen with Sam, though. They got together at Shadow Lake and dated for quite a few books; it just wasn't featured all that prominently. It more or less ended when Stacey had her massive crush on Wes, although things might have already started to fizzle.
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Post by virgoscorpio on Feb 15, 2012 15:52:33 GMT -5
Yeah, they did happen and they didn't happen. It was kin of hazy. As I said, they would still have some interaction with each other seeing as Kristy and Stacey are friends. I guess I'll chalk it up to the fact that those things happen in teenage relationships. "I like you but we're not dating and we sort of fade away." Obviously Stacey wasn't too crushed because there was Robert, Ethan and Jeremy...(to name a few).
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Post by sparklymouse on Feb 15, 2012 22:45:30 GMT -5
Stacey had a habit of finding a new boyfriend when her current one wasn't paying enough attention to her. It was completely in character for her to be more into Sam when they were spending a lot of time together (the vacation and then the play) than when they weren't. I think Sam did the fading away in this case though. I remember a moment at a club meeting where Kristy blurted out that Sam was hanging out with someone else and Stacey was all wounded by it.
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Post by virgoscorpio on Feb 16, 2012 14:28:48 GMT -5
^ Yeah, I remember that too. Didn't the girl Sam was interested in have read hair? She reminded me of Ariel or something... but maybe I'm just making that up in my head.
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Post by booboobrewer on Feb 16, 2012 20:11:57 GMT -5
I remember a moment at a club meeting where Kristy blurted out that Sam was hanging out with someone else and Stacey was all wounded by it. Was it in Phantom Phone Calls? Kristy mentions a girl with spiky hair and fingerless gloves and Stacey starts to cry. And then she saw him out with a redhead named Kathy when she was on the date with Terry Hoyt. Didn't it seem like they were always seeing the boys they liked with redheads--Sam, Travis, and I just read Lighthouse Ghost, where Steve Hatt walked off with a redhead at the end. All of this bodes well for Mal, I guess
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Post by zoar3 on Feb 16, 2012 20:56:31 GMT -5
I don't remember the girl's name or book just that Kristy tried reassuring Stacey that the only reason Sam dated her (the glove girl) was to shake up Mrs. Thomas. I believe her hair also had blue tips or something. Back on topic, I think Sam was too grounded for Stacey. If you take away his jokester tendencies at times, he didn't have any of the drama (or excitement, I say this thinking the way Stacey might have interpreted the situation at her age) that the other boys had. Robert (basketball and depression), Ethan (constant art showings), of course Wes, the teacher, Toby was just a vacation fling but then even he in "Boyfriend Trap" had some stuff going on. There was also the married Pierre (or was that Claudia)? Stacey did have a gaggle of "boyfriends" at only 13!
Even though I thought he was too old for her, I always held out hope they'd (Sam and Stacey) work out one day anyway.
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Post by sparklymouse on Feb 16, 2012 21:09:39 GMT -5
I never really thought about it, but Sam and Ethan were the same age, weren't they? Sam seemed so innocent and Ethan so worldly. If Stacey and Sam stayed together I could definitely see her being as embarrassed by him as she was by the club in Stacey's Mistake.
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Post by booboobrewer on Feb 17, 2012 2:06:18 GMT -5
Aww, I like Sam He and Stacey go all the way back to book #1! Love Ethan but there was always something about Sam...I agree that she would get embarrassed/tired of him, but I have always rooted for them.
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Post by virgoscorpio on Feb 17, 2012 11:34:37 GMT -5
I think there's a certain kind of responsibility that the Thomas kids had (aside from DM) that could make them potentially good guys. Although I wonder if Charlie, Sam, or DM would "abandon" the women in their lives when they got older because that's what they experienced from their father in childhood. Or, it could go the other way and they could be great, sensitive boyfriends.
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Post by zoar3 on Feb 17, 2012 12:02:21 GMT -5
That's exactly what happened with the Series. Ann started off with 4 "everyday" characters who she felt readers could easily relate too and wrote about life in their sleepy hometown. Again things that readers could also do/experience in their own lives. Then, maybe, in order to increase sales she decided to slowly but horribly increase the "shock" value. In came the "mysteries" and story-lines less centered on the girls and their families but on criminals and far off trips. I'm not saying that was all bad. Lol, I wouldn't still be one of the Series top fans if it were, just that imo, I still wish it the books had not "grown up" at least in the way they did. I'm editing this years later to say now I extra wish more time had been spent in 7th grade and no longer have much interest in wanting to read about the girls as older. I like that they will always be 13 and in 8th grade. Back on topic, believe all the Thomas brothers, especially Charlie, would go out of his way to be good boyfriends and husbands to the women they came to meet. I've said this a million times but that same (awful) abandonment by Patrick was why the BSC and its clients meant everything to Kristy. I think the same could be said (at least as they got older) for their dating lives.
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Post by wenonah4th on Feb 17, 2012 16:35:51 GMT -5
Totally agree!
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