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Post by booboobrewer on Jan 13, 2011 2:00:25 GMT -5
Abigail-->Alma Edie-->Elizabeth Of course we've noticed, there's a million pages long "inconsistencies" thread
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malloryfan14
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Post by malloryfan14 on Jan 13, 2011 17:28:51 GMT -5
Oh okay, thanks a lot (:
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Post by zoar3 on Jan 17, 2011 20:18:44 GMT -5
Could someone tell me what page Alma=Abigail? I still have yet to find it. I have the original cover of this book. Yes, Logan did come across as very hot in the painting scene.
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Post by wiggir13 on Jun 7, 2011 8:48:26 GMT -5
I wondered after reading this book, why didn't Mimi ever talk with MA about this? I know Kristy's mom says she forgot...but I don't think Mimi would have. Maybe she was just waiting for MA to ask her about it.
I got pretty angry at Richard in this one. I felt like he kept such a huge part of MA from her for so many years and due to that, she never had a relationship with her grandfather. I just think it was selfish of him to never talk about her mother with her. Yes it hurts, but you have to let people know where they came from and who they are!
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Post by anzuhana on Jun 7, 2011 10:11:00 GMT -5
Maybe Mimi felt that it wasn't her place to talk about that with Mary Anne since she wasn't a part of her family.
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Post by zoar3 on Jun 7, 2011 11:35:29 GMT -5
^I never got why Richard "hid" everything either, or to be honest, why Mary Anne never questioned her past before. One great time do that would have been when she and Dawn were going through their parents yearbooks. Dawn was talking about her grandparents and how they disapproved of Richard, that easily could have led to MA wondering about her own. I hated that Richard's parents were killed off. I thought his dad being a mailman might have been a very cool way to learn more about Stoneybrook. Although, lol, Kristy and the others might have tried to get him to deliver fliers and stuff without postage.
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Post by anzuhana on Jun 7, 2011 13:07:24 GMT -5
That would've been funny to read about.
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Post by zoar3 on Jun 7, 2011 17:19:07 GMT -5
It would have. Quite possibly, he would have had a lot of good "Heritage Day" info, too. I finished reading "Secret in the Attic" a few days ago.
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celaeno
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Post by celaeno on Feb 11, 2012 23:08:59 GMT -5
This is a book that I was dying to read when I was a kid, but somehow I never managed to get a copy of it. I just read it for the first time, and I'm glad I finally was able to read it. This is the kind of thing I would fantasize about when I was a kid - finding some letters in the attic revealing some angsty secret about my past. It was quite different from what I expected. I've had Mary Anne's Book since I was a kid (where they spend several chapters describing her visit to Iowa), and I was totally expecting the majority of this book to be set during her Iowa trip. So I was really surprised when she's only in Iowa for the last chapter, and even then we only hear recounted information about her trip from letters being sent back and forth. It did bother me that one of the main points about this book is that Mary Anne wants to learn more about her mother, and yet by the end, we still don't really know anything about Alma. We just get the usual vague "She was nice." The biggest thing that is hindering me from loving this book is, like in many BSC books, the incredibly convenient coincidence that pops up. Of course Mary Anne overhears a phone call from her long lost grandmother within just days of discovering her grandparents' existence. Just some random observations: -In Mary Anne Saves the Day, Mary Anne says her mom grew up in Maryland. I assume of course that this is just a writer's error, but maybe Richard made this up to hide the truth from Mary Anne? After all, Maryland sounds similar to Maynard. -In Mary Anne Saves the Day, Mary Anne says her dad is 42. In Mary Anne's book, Mary Anne's grandmother said she was working on a quilt for Alma's 25th birthday which she never gave to her, so I think that sounds like Alma probably died when she was around 24. So Richard and Alma were probably around 30 and 24, respectively, when Mary Anne was born. I just like knowing these things. -I actually think Mary Anne looks too pretty on the cover. She's described as having mousy brown hair (picture her on the cover of Kristy's Great Idea) and there's a lot of mentions in the books about how she's ordinary looking (they keep reminding us that that is why it's so surprising that Logan took an interest in her, of all girls), but on this cover she has thick, lovely Pocahontas-in-a-shampoo-commercial hair. Not how I picture her based on the descriptions.
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oldhickory
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Post by oldhickory on Feb 12, 2012 15:42:35 GMT -5
^ for some reason it bothers me that richard could be so much older than alma. i have gotten so used to the idea that he ended up with his high school sweetheart and they experienced all the dances, graduation, milestones together -- the idea that he was nearing thirty while alma was just wrapping up college just sounds weird.
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Post by virgoscorpio on Feb 12, 2012 15:52:41 GMT -5
^ Interesting because I don't think 24 and 30 is that big of an age difference personally.
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Post by anzuhana on Feb 12, 2012 16:12:15 GMT -5
^ Maybe a six year age difference isn't that big of age difference when you're an adults but it is when you're younger.
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Post by zoar3 on Feb 12, 2012 18:19:56 GMT -5
But a 6 year age difference if Alma indeed died at 24 would mean they had to have met at least 17 and 23, more likely 16 and 22. The latter is a gargantuan difference! The thing that complicates matters is we don't know how long Richard and Sharon went out just that they were high school sweethearts that went to the senior prom. If Sharon moved to CA right after graduation in order to "get away from Richard" (her parents wishes) I highly doubt Richard would have immediately moved onto Alma. I have a hunch that like with any time in Stoneybrook, this one is also messed up. I did, for some reason, always picture Alma as being in early early 20's when she died so that wouldn't even work either unless MA is lying about her own age!
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celaeno
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Post by celaeno on Feb 12, 2012 18:54:51 GMT -5
^What makes you say they would have had to meet when they were 16/17 and 22/23? It's possible they could have just had a very short courtship and engagement. Like, maybe they met when she was around 21 (around when she graduated from college) and he was around 27 (just getting out of law school), dated for two years and then got married, and had Mary Anne soon thereafter. Y'know, or some other similar scenario.
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oldhickory
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Post by oldhickory on Feb 12, 2012 19:23:06 GMT -5
the reason the age difference doesn't quite sit right with me is because richard and sharon were high school sweethearts and in a sense they grew up together. alma never got those memories that sharon did because she and richard were in completely different stages of life when they met. maybe she had a high school sweetheart too, but we are never told that. even though sharon was richard's first love, i consider alma his true love (and i assume that if she didn't die they would still be together) so i don't think it's fair that sharon gets all the fun high school memories.
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