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Post by Kylie90210 on Jan 7, 2008 21:38:10 GMT -5
Lol, too funny Greer! I wonder the same thing...
I tried to find the ep of Oprah that the BSC was on, no luck.
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Post by supprazz on Sept 13, 2008 11:30:19 GMT -5
hey I loved Jessi and the Dance School phantom and how well it was written and all the planning they did to catch the phantom, but I agree that she should have put her safety first before the dancing, although for someone her age it's understandable why she was afraid of losing her part.
I thought it was unsafe how some of them made headlines in the paper for solving mysteries, wouldn't that put them at risk?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2008 7:50:47 GMT -5
Yes it would. But then we wouldn't have gotten the plot for super-mysetery #2!
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Post by supprazz on Sept 17, 2008 8:44:19 GMT -5
I didn't like the headlines they made in Claudia and the Mystery at the Museum, that would put her at risk wouldn't it? They could have protected her identity since she's underage, and same with Claudia and the Clue in the Photograph.
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Post by wanderingfrog on Sept 17, 2008 17:12:26 GMT -5
This thread reminds me of an article from The Horn Book that I read recently. It's in two parts, and it's about how Nancy Drew's autonomy made her more popular with readers than any other girl sleuth.
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Post by starrynight on Sept 23, 2008 17:24:34 GMT -5
I would LOVE to see an Oprah BSC special...
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Post by supprazz on Sept 25, 2008 9:48:38 GMT -5
In most Nancy Drew books, she was tied up or held hostage or came close to death many times, maybe that book was trying to be like nancy drew. The last mystery I remember buying was Mary Anne and the Zoo Mystery, and after that I only bought the Music Box mystery one, so I have no idea what the book is about.
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Post by sillybillygoogoo on Mar 9, 2009 13:36:42 GMT -5
I thought it was strange how they would hide dangerous secrets, like Mr. X, for example. In Beware, Dawn, they hid Mr. X from the adults, I think because they wanted to seem like perfect, responsible sitters, and win that stupid contest- but, in theory, wouldn't hiding something like that make them the opposite?
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Post by tiff85 on Mar 17, 2009 19:13:53 GMT -5
I can't understand. Jessi should have known that her parents were there to protect her if she needed them. I agree the lack of parental invovement in the mysteries was pretty bad. It's like when something good and exciting is going on, the parents are there, but when something bad happens, there are no parents in sight!
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Post by wanderingfrog on Mar 17, 2009 20:23:48 GMT -5
^ Then again, parents who go out of town and leave their eleven-year-old in charge of their eight-year-old and their fourteen-month-old for an entire weekend don't really seem to be there to protect her if she needs them...
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Post by anzuhana on Mar 24, 2010 19:28:36 GMT -5
I never gave it any thought until I came here to the boards. Now, there are some moments where I think they should have told their parents (like with the arson in Babysitters Beware) but overall it doesn't bother me.
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Post by oldhickory on Mar 29, 2010 1:36:57 GMT -5
like a lot of people have said, the lack of parental involvement seemed awesome when i was a kid, and seems irresponsible now that i'm older. it just doesn't send a good message to kids. that age is so hard -- girls are trying to figure out what's important, and struggling to feel independent. so i can see why portraying independent characters would appeal to them. but on the other hand, the books send the message that winning a contest is a good reason to endanger the lives of children. obviously the books are fiction and it's up to parents to make sure their kids understand what's real and what's not, but still. i really liked how claudia ran to her mother first thing in the terrible truth, and the fact that claudia felt it was too big for her to handle on her own was so endearing. i wished that the rest of the books had continued this. sigh. i'm making myself sad.
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Post by candykane on Mar 31, 2010 13:04:51 GMT -5
The lack of parental involvement seemed awesome to me as a kid, too, but at the same time I knew it was unrealistic. Maybe that's why I liked it - I knew I'd never find myself in any situations like those, but it was fun to read about characters having the experiences.
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Post by zoar3 on Aug 11, 2013 18:05:21 GMT -5
I’m editing this because my initial post was too ramble-y, I hope this version makes more sense. Last night I read a Box Car Children’s (BCC) Book, "The Mystery of the Disappearing Staircase." Of course it reminded me of “The Ghost at Dawn’s House.” It also brought back memories of my favorite Bobbsey Twins book “Play House Secret—“ maybe I’ll re-read that tonight. In all 3 of these books secret passages and or rooms are discovered. The BCC and Bobbsey book, both involve kid sleuth’s saving the day by discovering where the thieves had hid antique toys. I started to think about the BSC Mysteries and how cool it would have been had the girls ever found a secret playroom or toy treasures. I know I am one of the few members on here who (generally) enjoys the sitting chapters. I always loved how Buddy and Charlotte helped Stacey and Mal solve Sophie’s Mystery in “Mallory and the Mystery Diary.” It would have been so cute had both of them teamed up together in a later book to crack some (kid-friendlier than cat burglars) case. I wasn’t sure where to post any of the above so I scanned through this Mystery Section. On the first page of this thread, Afton posted, “I think it would make some interesting story lines to have some parental involvement, though. Imagine how some of the lawyer dads or Claud's librarian mom or Watson with his connections might be able to help.” What a cool idea! We know the Pikes go to Sea City every year and stay inside a Gingerbread vacation home. We also know that Dee and John liked visiting Smithtown. I know this was supposed to be a colonial type village but maybe it could have also had some Sea City tie in. I could imagine MA trying to find some clues at such a place sort of like the research done in SM1. I will always wish we had a fuller story on the Mullrays. Maybe in Watson's library were some older books that could have helped. Since Watson lived in the “Big House,” all his life maybe he could have pointed Kristy in the right direction or even/better helped with the “research.” If Claud ever gave her mom more of a chance and if Rioko ever took the time to read a Nancy Drew or talk with Claudia about one, Rioko would have been a wonderful BSC helper for such a mystery. Lots of possibilities.
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Post by wenonah4th on Aug 14, 2013 9:37:18 GMT -5
It was in the earliest incarnations of Nancy Drew that she was 16. The later ones (the ones our mothers would have read, not our grnadmothers) she was 18.
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