starrynight
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Post by starrynight on Oct 28, 2008 17:41:54 GMT -5
No, Stacey was more into the up and coming fashion that you find in fancy boutiques. She wasn't really vintage.
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supprazz
Sitting For The Newtons
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Post by supprazz on Oct 31, 2008 15:28:57 GMT -5
Claudia would have gone crazy with it though, she could have taken her to those places. Claudia would have had a ball at Hell's Kitchen.
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Post by m0drnmoonlight on May 14, 2009 12:09:23 GMT -5
I really need to re-read this one; first of all, Stacey, no New Yorker will openly call NYC "The Big Apple." It's "the city." ARGH!
One thing that irritated me was at the beginning, at the train station, when Stacey and her mom have to reassure the other families that the girls will be ok in NYC. They're all freaking out and clutching their pearls over *GASP* cockroaches! And rats! What, they've never seen any of that before in Stoneybrook? They're all acting like NYC is some crazy, dangerous, far-away place. They're in Southern Connecticut; I pass through there by train on my way up to Boston from NY and it's like a 30-40 minute train ride/an hour drive. And the Ramseys - they're from NJ! Depending on what part of the state they're from, they're either close to NYC, or Philadelphia, which is a pretty decent-sized city (though nowhere near as huge as Manhattan). Have none of these people ever been to a city before?
Same with the girls running the clothes they pack past Stacey for approval. How do people in NYC dress? Um, the same way they do everywhere else?
And I always thought Julliard was a college for studying music and dance; what's Quint doing attending classes there at age 11? That plot was just so far-fetched. What 11-year-olds know how to kiss like that? I liked that Laine insisted on meeting his family first. She's showing more sense than the parents in Stoneybrook do (the Pikes never meeting Alex and Toby in Sea City)!
Dawn was way too paranoid. I know NYC was a much grittier, less family-friendly place in the early 90s, but all the places they were going to were the touristy places, and those are usually safe bets. Again, has she ever been to a city before? And with all the crimes they solve in Stoneybrook, you think she'd feel confident about facing danger!
I liked the Harringtons, but good lord, could they be anymore stereotypically posh and British? I didn't realize it was still a popular trend for posh Brits to dress their children up like Buster Brown and Mary Jane.
I also liked Claudia and Mallory's art classes, it was nice to see one of the girls step out of her comfort zone and try something new (since it's only on occasion we hear about Mallory liking to draw). Claudia was a b*tch to her though, I felt bad for Mallory. I was happy to see them go to the Cloisters, I love the Cloisters!
Kristy was pretty confident Watson would let her take the dog home with her, wasn't she?
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Post by greer on May 15, 2009 0:56:17 GMT -5
Julliard has classes outside of the college program. I know people who studied there as kids/teenagers.
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Post by helsieboo on Aug 13, 2009 8:16:06 GMT -5
Apologies if someone already posted this, but I'm re-reading this one at the moment and I've really got the giggles in the first chapter.
MA is singing that old song New York, New York, but she is singing 'New York, New York, a wonderful town.'
Stacey points out that this is wrong and starts to correct her, but MA starts cutting her off, saying she'll sing her own version. Stacey started saying 'New York, New York, a he-' where she gets cut off, the next word being 'hell.'
Hahaha I find this funny.
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starrynight
Sitting For The Kuhns
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Post by starrynight on Aug 13, 2009 13:17:23 GMT -5
^ I always thought that was funny, too.
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Post by sweetvalleygirl99 on Aug 13, 2009 15:49:20 GMT -5
^ Me too .
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Post by alula on Aug 13, 2009 21:47:07 GMT -5
I liked the Harringtons, but good lord, could they be anymore stereotypically posh and British? I didn't realize it was still a popular trend for posh Brits to dress their children up like Buster Brown and Mary Jane. I also liked Claudia and Mallory's art classes, it was nice to see one of the girls step out of her comfort zone and try something new (since it's only on occasion we hear about Mallory liking to draw). Claudia was a b*tch to her though, I felt bad for Mallory. I was happy to see them go to the Cloisters, I love the Cloisters! Believe me, next to Victoria Kent and her parents, Alistair and Rowena are models of nuanced, realistic characterization. I love the Cloisters, too.
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Post by helsieboo on Aug 14, 2009 3:11:16 GMT -5
Don't even get me started on Victoria Kent! *runs around screaming*
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Post by candykane on Aug 14, 2009 7:48:53 GMT -5
Rowena and Alistaire really were stereotypical! Reading this book one would think all British kids were perfect, polite angels. I've seen a few of the British eps of Supernanny, though, and seen British kids that are just as bad as the American ones...LOL! I guess it doesn't matter where you come from, there will be naughty children everywhere! On another note, I always felt bad for Mallory in this book because of the way Claudia treated her. Mallory wasn't even doing anything, but Claudia was so jealous it made her act hideous towards her. Claudia came to Falny expecting to be seen as this star artist and instead was criticized by Mac. Since art is the only thing Claudia thinks she's good at, I can see why she'd be especially hurt. But in the end, I think the criticism helped her. After she spent three and a half hours on one drawing and had that talk with Mac, she saw that she wasn't the perfect artist and there were actually ways to improve on her work and become better.
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Post by wenonah4th on Aug 14, 2009 7:59:01 GMT -5
But Stacey's wrong, iff you listen to the original (from On the Town). MA's right.
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Post by sparklymouse on Aug 14, 2009 9:00:43 GMT -5
Candykane, I didn't feel badly for Mallory because she seemed pretty oblivious to Claudia's mood most of the time. Or rather, she could tell that Claudia was mad but didn't make the connection that Claudia was mad at her. I think they have back to back chapters where Claudia is majorly ticked off in hers, and then in Mal's she's like "I think Claudia's upset about something. But whatever, I need to perfect my mice.". That always made me laugh.
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Post by candykane on Aug 14, 2009 12:06:37 GMT -5
^ Perfect my mice...LOL.
I always chalked Mal's oblivion up to the fact that she was just so absorbed in her own drawings and wanted so badly to do well and impress Mac.
Also, Mal probably thought that Claudia was such a good artist that there was no way Claudia could be mad at her about anything related to it (in this case, Claud believing that Mac thought Mal's work was better). I remember in their first class, Mal glanced over at Claudia's drawing of the stacked boxes and felt horrible because she thought her own drawing of them was so bad and she hadn't finished it yet.
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supprazz
Sitting For The Newtons
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Post by supprazz on Oct 9, 2009 14:03:14 GMT -5
I have to say my favourite plot in the book was the claudia and mallory one, and the jessi one.
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Post by inge on Oct 15, 2009 10:29:49 GMT -5
I finally read this book it gave me the inspiration to go see South Street Seaport on my final trip to New York, to complete my list of tourist sights seen I really liked this book. As some of you mentioned I liked Mallory's chapters a lot, how she was kind of like: "meh, whatever" about Claudia being silly rather than getting upset about it and I liked how she made up her mind about having more fun just drawing mice. I liked all the sightseeing that happened in this book (as a big NYC fan myself) but I wish they'd do some more non-cliché sightseeing... something that isn't in all the books... but whatever, I guess this is what people think about when they think New York
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