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Post by secondhandshoes on Jun 9, 2007 1:12:35 GMT -5
I actually feel bad for Stacey in Stacey VS the BSC. I'm kind of going through the same thing right now. The BSC doesn't seem to condone any type of friendship outside of their little group, which is kind of how the problem started. Stacey has new friends, they don't like that. So Stacey rebelled. It's quite annoying when your friends don't want you to have new friends.
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Post by liss31d on Jun 10, 2007 4:24:44 GMT -5
I had exactly the same problem as Stacey about a year and a half ago. I had a boyfriend (initially a friend) and of course I wanted to spend time with him and get to know his friends too, and even though I was still spending a lot of time with my other friends, they acted all silenty and glarey like the BSC did, made very embarrassing comments about our relationship and everytime I wanted to ask my BF could come along with us to the cinema or something, one of my closer friends (who I nearly fell out with due to her nasty attitude) would say that he can't come as it would spoil things and made a really catty comment about how at least she'd have the other girls to talk to... girls are very possessive and although some of the things Stacey did were wrong (like the party... pretty nasty), I really could relate to her after that happened to me.
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Post by aln1982 on Jun 10, 2007 16:22:20 GMT -5
^ Sorry to hear you guys went through this. I can understand where you are coming from about the friends not wanting you to have other friends. But I don't really think that justifies Stacey being so "humiliated" by the girls in the BSC and thinking they are so immature. Making fun of MA's sweatshirt was one example that comes right to mind. (I know - very typical for 13 year olds or actually girls of any age) Of course, I can really relate to the rest of the BSC more with being "dumped" by a "cool" friend who decides to start treating you like garbage after you have been nothing but nice for her. I also didn't think Stacey's wanting to have different friends justified the way she was pretty neglectful of Jamie and didn't go to Charlotte's concert. I liked what the girls said to her in the end about that she was the one who was immature. Sure, it was a bad situation for Stacey, but she handled it poorly, too. But I don't think you are actually condoning Stacey's behavior with the kids or any of the other ways, liss and secondhandshoes, just saying that you can relate to other parts of her situation. I can understand this and do sympathize for her with this situation. I just think she could have handled it better and the way she acted while baby-sitting was irresponsible. Very out of character, I thought, since Stacey usually seems like one of the best sitters.
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Post by sotypical42483 on Jun 17, 2007 14:16:53 GMT -5
I agree with aln. Stacey's behavior was justifiable to a point, but she took it too far. making fun of Mary Anne? What the hell did Mary Anne ever do to her? MA was the one covering her sitting jobs! And she took her issues with the BSC out on the kids she was sitting for, I felt SO bad for Char when Stacey didn't show up for her
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Post by aln1982 on Aug 20, 2007 23:42:38 GMT -5
After rereading Boy Crazy Stacey, I started thinking about how Stacey is always supposed to be so mature and sophisticated but actually seems quite naive sometimes. I'm thinking especially of how she assumed she actually had a chance with Wes and with Scott the lifeguard. Maybe that comes from her being overly confident of how mature she is, though. Or maybe guys are her weak spot for dumb assumptions, which all the girls tend to make in some form.
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Post by sugarmonkey on Aug 21, 2007 9:43:25 GMT -5
That's a good theory, that she's overconfident about her maturity. There's probably some naivety in there from just being 13 to. Plus Stacey's an only child so she was probably closer to her parents (especially her mom) than other kids with a bunch of siblings tend to be. She probably learned how to...relate?...conduct herself?...connect?...with adults more so than other kids who have siblings and don't get the chance to have a lot of one on one time with adults they way only children do. All you only children probably know what I mean.
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Post by sotypical42483 on Aug 21, 2007 13:12:37 GMT -5
Stacey is like those 15 and 16 year olds who insist they are soooo mature and "people think they are at least 20!!" and honestly, if you have to talk about how mature you are, you probably aren't.
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Post by lark on Aug 21, 2007 14:43:38 GMT -5
^ That reminds me of a part from Stacey's Ex-Best Friend where she says she could pass for 15 or 16 with what she's wearing, but Laine looks extra mature and could pass for 18. Could any 13 year old ever really pass for 18?
Having said that, Stacey is my favorite and always has been. I don't really know why. Maybe because she's from NY (and so am I, though not from NYC, although I don't live far.) and she's fashionable and pretty. I totally agree that that appeals to a kid. But I just think she's an interesting character with her diabetes and divorced parents. Stacey has it pretty tough sometimes.
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Post by blossom114 on Aug 21, 2007 15:00:47 GMT -5
I've been readingg a lot of the earlier ones lately, and there's definitelly a personality shift in Stacey. Kristy even describes her as "sensitive" in Kristy and the snobs...and in the later books she thinks the BSC is too babyish. That being said, she's still my favorite.
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Post by aln1982 on Aug 21, 2007 16:53:58 GMT -5
^ Agree with everyone, including liking Stacey. Totally agree about so-called mature people, sotypical. I think MA kind of pointed that out to Stacey in Stacey vs the BSC. I can also see how Stacey might be more mature or at least felt more comfortable with adults, though, because of all the factors sugarmonkey mentioned. I'm an only child who is very close with my parents and have always felt more comfortable with adults than kids my own age. I've also tended to develop crushes on older guys (though I'm not like Stacey and always realized that nothing would ever come of it. Not to say I didn't fantasize ;D)
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Post by sugarmonkey on Aug 21, 2007 21:09:03 GMT -5
Well, there's nothing wrong with fantasizing, some of my best "experiences" have been imaginary!
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Post by aln1982 on Aug 27, 2007 23:45:58 GMT -5
^ Mine too ;D Too bad Stacey occasionally sees herself as too cool for the BSC and gets so easily embarrassed by them because she can actually be a really good friend. I really liked how supportive she was and how good she was to MA right after the fire in Fire at MA's House. I know there are a few other books where she seems like she's really there for her friends. I like that side of Stacey.
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Post by sotypical42483 on Aug 28, 2007 12:42:32 GMT -5
I like that side of Stacey, too. I hate when she's too cool for the BSC and I really enjoy when, even though she is soooo much more "sophisticated" she is still accepting of the other girls and their differences. I like seeing her be friendly to Mallory and stuff because they are such opposites that it's nice Stacey still likes her and is her friend (ie; them walking to school and stuff - the towel arrangment)
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Post by Sweet City Girl on Oct 7, 2007 13:56:13 GMT -5
I was just thinking about Stacey, who has been one of my favorite characters since I started the series. We share several similarities and I like reading about her, but her snobbiness somethimes bugs me. Was reading some of the comments on this thread and agree that Stacey's good side is much more appealing. One thing I've noticed about her is that her disposition seems different depending on the book I read. In some she's snobby and easily embarrassed, and in others she can seem so caring, sweet, and funny. I don’t like her when she’s being a snob or the fact that she thinks she’s so “cool.” She isn’t as sophisticated as she frequently advertises, but I guess she would appear that way to girls her age and younger. I have to admit that someone like her may not appeal to me in real life, since she tends to have so much pride in herself and is often embarrassed by anything seemingly “immature.” Reading about her is fun, though, especially because she comes from New York City. Okay, so maybe that’s the real reason why she’s one of my favorites. That’s what drew me to her in the first place, so I have to say that I’m a bit Stacey-biased in that aspect. ;D
However, I have noticed that Stacey does have some very admirable traits. One of these is her sensitivity to other people. Although she may not always be nice, other times Stacey can be so caring and thoughtful of others that she almost seems completely selfless. Two notable instances of her selflessness can be found in Stacey’s Choice and Stacey’s Ex-Boyfriend. In the first one, Stacey does whatever it takes to make sure her sick mother is taken care of. In my opinion, she goes way overboard trying to manage everything, but you have to admit that what she was doing was very sweet, the way she was so concerned and all. In the latter, Stacey tries to help her ex-boyfriend with his depression, trying to take care of everything herself even when it means sacrificing her schoolwork and well being. Note that in both these books, while Stacey overdoes things, she is being selfless and a deeply caring person. I agree that she really can be a good friend despite her faults.
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Post by booboobrewer on Oct 7, 2007 15:44:13 GMT -5
Definitely agree. Her character is quite nuanced.
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