celaeno
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Post by celaeno on Jan 24, 2014 0:47:59 GMT -5
^Yeah, Mrs. McGill's reaction seemed weird. My parents were certainly generous with letting my friends eat our snacks. It seemed really strange to me that Stacey felt she needed to go out and restock the snacks in the house that her friends ate, because my parents definitely wouldn't have expected me to compensate them for food if my friends came over and ate some.
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Post by greer on Jan 24, 2014 4:49:54 GMT -5
I'm reading this one now and have to laugh at Stacey's description of her outfit (and the outfit itself): "sophisticated yet casual, with a nautical hint. Sort of like a summer day in NYC." Really, Lerangis? I can't snark the bad girls' appearance, though, because I would've found them SO omg!rebellious at thirteen. Um, what is with Mrs McGill's overreaction? The kids were watching videos, eating peanuts and yoghurt (and tbh I don't find this realistic for anyone but Stacey to eat - wouldn't she have chips and soft drinks for visitors?), and being a little messy. They weren't throwing loud parties with music and alcohol. What did Maureen EXPECT a bunch of thirteen-year-old girls to do? I can understand that she should have Stacey clean up the mess, especially Robert's white paint, but there is no way a simple afternoon party should be that bad. And this is the same woman who allows Stacey to babysit and date? I can see the McGills not keeping junk food around. You're not going to keep a bunch of stuff around on the off chance that someone might drop by. I'm sure that if Stacey had a party, they'd buy some. It's kind of hard because you have to remember that they are thirteen, but in a weird way. I can see my parents getting mad if my eighth-grader sister had a bunch of friends over when no adults were home and they made a mess. But I also can't see them yelling at her to get a job. That plot point works a lot better if you think of Stacey as being three years older than she is supposed to be. I guess Mrs. McGill was just used to Stacey having all of her time taken up by the BSC.
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Post by mistrali on Jan 24, 2014 5:25:14 GMT -5
I'm reading this one now and have to laugh at Stacey's description of her outfit (and the outfit itself): "sophisticated yet casual, with a nautical hint. Sort of like a summer day in NYC." Really, Lerangis? I can't snark the bad girls' appearance, though, because I would've found them SO omg!rebellious at thirteen. Um, what is with Mrs McGill's overreaction? The kids were watching videos, eating peanuts and yoghurt (and tbh I don't find this realistic for anyone but Stacey to eat - wouldn't she have chips and soft drinks for visitors?), and being a little messy. They weren't throwing loud parties with music and alcohol. What did Maureen EXPECT a bunch of thirteen-year-old girls to do? I can understand that she should have Stacey clean up the mess, especially Robert's white paint, but there is no way a simple afternoon party should be that bad. And this is the same woman who allows Stacey to babysit and date? I can see the McGills not keeping junk food around. You're not going to keep a bunch of stuff around on the off chance that someone might drop by. I'm sure that if Stacey had a party, they'd buy some. It's kind of hard because you have to remember that they are thirteen, but in a weird way. I can see my parents getting mad if my eighth-grader sister had a bunch of friends over when no adults were home and they made a mess. But I also can't see them yelling at her to get a job. That plot point works a lot better if you think of Stacey as being three years older than she is supposed to be. I guess Mrs. McGill was just used to Stacey having all of her time taken up by the BSC. Yeah, I definitely thought of her as sixteen for the job thing. I can see how it works for the food part, sorta, because at sixteen kids ought to be able to clean up their own messes. That said, sixteen is still young enough to be silly once in a while: Maureen's reaction seems a little OTT even if Stacey is aged up. My parents keep juice and chips and stuff for visitors, though. Even if Maureen doesn't eat much of it, there will always be family friends coming over, and of course Stacey's BSC friends and boyfriends.
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Post by greer on Jan 24, 2014 7:14:18 GMT -5
I can see the McGills not keeping junk food around. You're not going to keep a bunch of stuff around on the off chance that someone might drop by. I'm sure that if Stacey had a party, they'd buy some. It's kind of hard because you have to remember that they are thirteen, but in a weird way. I can see my parents getting mad if my eighth-grader sister had a bunch of friends over when no adults were home and they made a mess. But I also can't see them yelling at her to get a job. That plot point works a lot better if you think of Stacey as being three years older than she is supposed to be. I guess Mrs. McGill was just used to Stacey having all of her time taken up by the BSC. Yeah, I definitely thought of her as sixteen for the job thing. I can see how it works for the food part, sorta, because at sixteen kids ought to be able to clean up their own messes. That said, sixteen is still young enough to be silly once in a while: Maureen's reaction seems a little OTT even if Stacey is aged up. My parents keep juice and chips and stuff for visitors, though. Even if Maureen doesn't eat much of it, there will always be family friends coming over, and of course Stacey's BSC friends and boyfriends. This was when Stacey didn't have the BSC, though, and I don't think they had family friends in Connecticut.
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supprazz
Sitting For The Newtons
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Post by supprazz on Jan 24, 2014 9:21:21 GMT -5
I'm reading this one now and have to laugh at Stacey's description of her outfit (and the outfit itself): "sophisticated yet casual, with a nautical hint. Sort of like a summer day in NYC." Really, Lerangis? I can't snark the bad girls' appearance, though, because I would've found them SO omg!rebellious at thirteen. Um, what is with Mrs McGill's overreaction? The kids were watching videos, eating peanuts and yoghurt (and tbh I don't find this realistic for anyone but Stacey to eat - wouldn't she have chips and soft drinks for visitors?), and being a little messy. They weren't throwing loud parties with music and alcohol. What did Maureen EXPECT a bunch of thirteen-year-old girls to do? I can understand that she should have Stacey clean up the mess, especially Robert's white paint, but there is no way a simple afternoon party should be that bad. And this is the same woman who allows Stacey to babysit and date? I know Stacey is thirteen and like the other thirteen year olds in Stoneybrook, treated like a 21 year old LOL but at the end of the day, Maureen is living as a single parent working at Bellair's and collecting child support, and it's her that has to pay the bills for 2 people while 4-5 of her friends were freeloading each and every day at Stacey's that particular summer from how it sounded. If they're going to come over that often, I think out of common courtesy, they should bring their own food too and clean up after themselves, it's not a hotel. If she's working and contributing, then it's different, but she was not doing either though I know she's a kid, and remember, these are girls that took advantage of Stacey (her dad did that to her often as well throughout the series, so I understand why she gets into these relationships often) and Maureen did a pretty good job of listing what these girls did at the end. When they all eat at Claudia's, that junk food from her own money, not her family, so it's totally different.
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Post by mistrali on Jan 29, 2014 0:11:12 GMT -5
Ah, okay. I haven't read Stacey and the Cheerleaders, or the end of that book, so I'm not sure what happens except that (of course) Stacey somehow realises they're a bad influence. I didn't get the impression they were coming over every day/for 3 or four days in a row, but if they were (I might well have misread), then I guess they/their parents should've been much more courteous. Still and all, I think Maureen did overreact. She has a right to be angry, but that's part of what comes with having kids (and yeah, so far these kids seem to be acting like teenagers instead of, like, self-reliant adults). greer: Didn't Maureen grow up in Stoneybrook? Or am I thinking of Sharon? But yeah, I'd forgotten that in 'real time' , if the books hadn't had the time warp, it would only have been a few months since she moved to Stoneybrook for the first time.
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mallorypike
Sitting For The Papadakis's
If I were thirteen instead of eleven, life would be a picnic...
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Post by mallorypike on Jan 29, 2014 0:15:50 GMT -5
Mistrali, it was Sharon that grew up in Stoneybrook, not Maureen.
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Post by mistrali on Jan 29, 2014 0:27:05 GMT -5
Ok, thanks. ETA: U4Me's new CD is called - wait for it- U & Me 4 U4Me. I sat there laughing for about five minutes. Points to Lerangis! I'm not sure about Sunny's telling Dawn about her mum's cancer - it seems kind of random. We'll see if it pops up again, though. I can't stand the (to me) gratuitous babysitting subplot in this book, maybe because the clients are new. "Rank" and "Drawers" (as in undies?). O-kay. The bat story was good, though.
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Post by greer on Jan 29, 2014 6:24:22 GMT -5
Ok, thanks. ETA: U4Me's new CD is called - wait for it- U & Me 4 U4Me. I sat there laughing for about five minutes. Points to Lerangis! I'm not sure about Sunny's telling Dawn about her mum's cancer - it seems kind of random. We'll see if it pops up again, though. I can't stand the (to me) gratuitous babysitting subplot in this book, maybe because the clients are new. "Rank" and "Drawers" (as in undies?). O-kay. The bat story was good, though. Sunny's mom's cancer is a major plotpoint in CA Diaries. I always forget it's revealed in this book.
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Post by mistrali on Jan 29, 2014 7:49:57 GMT -5
Ok, thanks. ETA: U4Me's new CD is called - wait for it- U & Me 4 U4Me. I sat there laughing for about five minutes. Points to Lerangis! I'm not sure about Sunny's telling Dawn about her mum's cancer - it seems kind of random. We'll see if it pops up again, though. I can't stand the (to me) gratuitous babysitting subplot in this book, maybe because the clients are new. "Rank" and "Drawers" (as in undies?). O-kay. The bat story was good, though. Sunny's mom's cancer is a major plotpoint in CA Diaries. I always forget it's revealed in this book. Oh, I know. Sorry, I should've specified that I was wondering if/how it related to this or any books set shortly afterwards. This book is frustrating me so much, I've half a mind to snark it. The wine in socks is priceless, but I suppose Lerangis couldn't've shown kids drinking vodka. Maybe it was some other type of hard liquor? *shrug*
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Post by greer on Jan 29, 2014 7:51:44 GMT -5
Sunny's mom's cancer is a major plotpoint in CA Diaries. I always forget it's revealed in this book. Oh, I know; I was wondering if/how it related to this or the following book. This book is frustrating me so much, I've half a mind to snark it. The wine in socks is priceless, but I suppose Lerangis couldn't've shown kids drinking vodka. Maybe it was some other type of hard liquor? *shrug* It does relate to the following book, but I think it's only mentioned when Dawn comes for Christmas in, I believe, The Secret Life of Mary Anne Spier, and then in FF when Dawn and Sunny come to visit in Welcome Home, Mary Anne.
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Post by mistrali on Jan 29, 2014 8:04:14 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. Farewell, Dawn is another one I haven't read. I always thought Welcome Home, MA was the only one that dealt with Sunny, so I was surprised to see it come up here. But it's likely they were writing CA Diaries at the time and wanted to a) get Dawn to California and b) provide some setup for the CA Diaries.
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Post by greer on Jan 29, 2014 8:52:51 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. Farewell, Dawn is another one I haven't read. I always thought Welcome Home, MA was the only one that dealt with Sunny, so I was surprised to see it come up here. But it's likely they were writing CA Diaries at the time and wanted to a) get Dawn to California and b) provide some setup for the CA Diaries. California Diaries came out two years later, so I'm not sure how long they were in the works. She's already settled into CA by the time they begin. If I'm not mixing anything up, The Secret Life of Mary Anne Spier is the first book where Dawn is in her CA Diaries persona and is more "sophisticated."
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Post by virgoscorpio on Jan 29, 2014 23:59:21 GMT -5
Now I'm thinking that "New York Diaries" featuring Stacey would also have been interesting...
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Amalia
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Post by Amalia on Jan 30, 2014 19:48:09 GMT -5
Did anybody else wonder who those people are that are behind Stacey, Sheila, etc.? Like their names & things in their lives.
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