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Post by greer on Aug 28, 2011 9:30:47 GMT -5
What do you guys mean by Claudia being co-dependent? I only understand it in the AA sense. I don't see Claudia as being a caretaker involved in an unhealthy relationship.
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Post by supprazz on Aug 28, 2011 10:10:01 GMT -5
Just saying that I believe she's the kind of person who was not praised enough by family or probably felt like a black sheep that a part of her will always attract someone to give her validation or approval. Not saying this is true of all people, but these kind of patterns from a young age can determine the type of relationships you have later on in life. She may base her self worth and self esteem on whether she has friends or not, whether she has a boyfriend or not (as we saw in Claudia and the Perfect Boy) and so forth. Though she seems confident many times and has a lot of guts wearing a lot of things she does, I don't know how that would fly for her in high school and university, and I think creative people struggle with feeling different at some point or like an outcast. She may become insecure if relationships don't work out cause of too much pressure to do well at home being a part of her conditioning and not feeling good enough. Art is something where she could develop her perfectionism, but she may have a harder time doing it in real life since she still passed in school but wasn't good enough like her 'genius sister'
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Post by Honeybee on Dec 19, 2011 2:10:22 GMT -5
Been long time, I read this book. So, I didn't remember it.
Stacey's bad friends Sheila & Heather. Sheila is my mom's name. Heather is my older sister's name. (No, their not wild like them.) My old sister does have nose pierced. But, she didn't get it, like in her late 20's early 30's. It's small stud. looks more like speck than nose ring. They also mention my name. The owner's dog, Cutesy. Melissa. That's my first name.
If, Stacey knew Heather, Sheila, Mia, & Jacqui. Was doing wrong. A light ball should have click in her head & saying, these are bad girls. But, in her mind. BSC dump her. She needed friends for the summer.
Sub-plot I didnt like it. Mr & Mrs Porter. Leaving Amy at the Schaffer/Spier place. Which they she didnt really know them. Even if Dawn is Amy's second cousin. They should ask Amy, if she wanted come to London or not. i'm sire, their was something for 6 year old do in London. If, they want be alone. Hire a babysitter or drop her off @ daycare in London. not the whole 3 weeks. but, somedays on their trip.
I remember, when I was 4 years old. My mom drop me off at Sunday School. was I crying. I thought, my mom didn't want me anymore. (My first time, being away from my mom.) But the Sunday School teacher clam me down. Like few minutes later, I was playing with other kids in Sunday School. When, it was time to leave my mom pick me up. I was happy again. The only time, my parents drop me off to spent the night @ someone's house. It was @ my grandparents house on both sides. (different days of course.)
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Post by virgoscorpio on Dec 20, 2011 18:05:21 GMT -5
So, when re-reading this, Andi's group of friends (Sheila et al) didn't really seem the same to me as they were in book 70 or 83. I didn't picture them as grunge, I pictured them cheerleaders or girls more like Stacey. And the cover is confusing, trying to figure out which girl is which. I was doing it based off of what was written in the book -- like what they look like and what they were wearing at the concert -- but it didn't help much, except to say that one girl was wearing a black baseball cap backwards. Earlier in the thread, there was a "debate", so to speak, on whether Stacey handled her job interview well by bailing and looking after the little girl. The girl did ask her to play and kind of encourage Stacey, so it wasn't as if Stacey "bailed" without a reason. I guess she was just showing that she put the needs of the kids first. And because she was 13, I don't think it was necessary to do a formal interview. I've been in many interviews before and it doesn't matter that much in my experience. Also, if the adults needed her badly to continue the interview, they could have called her back. At least they got a first-hand experience at how she works with kids. And I smirked at the ending when Stacey was like, "I'm NOT working at Bellair's anymore because I don't want ANYTHING to interfere with my BSC duties." Could she put her face any farther up Kristy's you-know-what? Her front of her back end, you can decide which
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Post by supprazz on Feb 10, 2012 3:07:27 GMT -5
She could have stood up to Kristy, but she would be back in school again before she knew it, and the job was probably just for summer.
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Post by virgoscorpio on Feb 10, 2012 11:13:45 GMT -5
^ Still, wouldn't you think that even looks bad on Maureen's end? Stacey did partially get the job because of her mother (well, a foot in the door anyway). Maybe Maureen will be known at Bellair's for the daughter who quit at the last minute. Flaky Stacey! haha.
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Post by supprazz on Feb 11, 2012 0:40:00 GMT -5
Maybe Maureen is the one who spoke to them, and they left it out of the book cause it goes against the idea of her being an independent 13 year old
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Post by virgoscorpio on Feb 11, 2012 0:53:34 GMT -5
And I think 13 is a bit young to be hired for employment. So maybe they realized they broke the law and were like, "Seeya!"
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Post by supprazz on Feb 11, 2012 3:17:37 GMT -5
Maybe they were paying her from their own pocket, or through Maureen, ha! I worked since 14, but it was for relatives
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Post by celaeno on Dec 3, 2012 23:24:18 GMT -5
I remember seeing this book at the bookstore when I was younger and longing to read it, because it looked so incredibly juicy and edgy compared to the past BSC books I had read (by the time this book came out, I felt too old to read BSC which is why I never read this one...but I still liked checking out the BSC shelves at bookstores, because I still wanted to know what was going on in Stoneybrook). It's funny reading it now, since the story is, of course, so tame compared to how daring I imagined it being as a kid. Even the cover seems so different - I remember thinking the gang on the cover looked sooooo badass, but looking at it now, Stacey seems so wholesome that if she were taken out of context, she would like she was at a Young Republicans convention. The girl on the left on the cover always makes me think of a blonde Fairuza Balk.
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Post by virgoscorpio on Dec 3, 2012 23:57:41 GMT -5
^ You're not alone. I used to do the same thing. Most of the time, I raced to the bookstore and checked out the BSC section first. Where I grew up, at one time, there were 2 bookstores in the mall. Both stores would sometimes carry different books. So if my sister and I were allowed to get one, we always checked out both stores stock to see which book we wanted the most. I remember one time she bought Shadow Lake and another time she bought Claudia Kishi, Live from WSTO. Claud was my sister's favourite sitter.
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Post by charjo on Dec 4, 2012 15:32:26 GMT -5
^I think they did, too and it was nice too see. Another reminder that it really was too bad Amelia Freeman was killed off and the Shillabers along with Lauren Hoffman were (basically)written off. Ok, I've officially read too much fanfiction, because my first thought on reading this post was that Lauren Hoffman's a psycho and the girls should stay far away from her.
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Post by booboobrewer on Dec 9, 2012 17:55:42 GMT -5
I remember seeing this book at the bookstore when I was younger and longing to read it, because it looked so incredibly juicy and edgy Haha, yes, and I loved that it came out in the summer; it seemed more fun to read BSC over summer vacation.
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Post by supprazz on Dec 16, 2012 21:26:25 GMT -5
^ You're not alone. I used to do the same thing. Most of the time, I raced to the bookstore and checked out the BSC section first. Where I grew up, at one time, there were 2 bookstores in the mall. Both stores would sometimes carry different books. So if my sister and I were allowed to get one, we always checked out both stores stock to see which book we wanted the most. I remember one time she bought Shadow Lake and another time she bought Claudia Kishi, Live from WSTO. Claud was my sister's favourite sitter. And each time we would go to a mall out of the way or even at the airport bookstore, I would often find books I couldn't find in my area and go nuts, such as Super Specials
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Post by mistrali on Jan 24, 2014 0:20:42 GMT -5
I'm reading this one now and have to laugh at Stacey's description of her outfit (and the outfit itself): "sophisticated yet casual, with a nautical hint. Sort of like a summer day in NYC."
Really, Lerangis?
I can't snark the bad girls' appearance, though, because I would've found them SO omg!rebellious at thirteen.
Um, what is with Mrs McGill's overreaction? The kids were watching videos, eating peanuts and yoghurt (and tbh I don't find this realistic for anyone but Stacey to eat - wouldn't she have chips and soft drinks for visitors?), and being a little messy. They weren't throwing loud parties with music and alcohol. What did Maureen EXPECT a bunch of thirteen-year-old girls to do? I can understand that she should have Stacey clean up the mess, especially Robert's white paint, but there is no way a simple afternoon party should be that bad.
And this is the same woman who allows Stacey to babysit and date?
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