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Post by aln1982 on May 20, 2007 15:44:52 GMT -5
^ I think hazing is common in the US - especially in college fraternities - but they're trying to stop it some. I agree that it's pointless and I would never do it. I also agree with msstock that the girls should have confessed in the end. It kind of surprised me that they didn't.
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Post by sotypical42483 on May 20, 2007 22:06:08 GMT -5
I think I've only read this book once cause I dont' remember it TOO well, but do remember it vaguelly. I remember being surprised the girls never confessed. I really would think Kristy would confess, it seems uncharacteristic of her not to. Stacey and claudia coaching the Krushers was too funny, didn't they come up with some crazy outfits for it or something? As for the hazing thing, I know it takes place in the US and all, but in MIDDLE SCHOOL?! I find it hard to believe they'd be so hardcore about it in 8th grade!
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Post by dawnomite on May 21, 2007 15:15:53 GMT -5
As for the hazing thing, I know it takes place in the US and all, but in MIDDLE SCHOOL?! I find it hard to believe they'd be so hardcore about it in 8th grade! I've never experienced it. I was kind of nervous because I made the Varsity Cheerleading team the summer after 8th grade and I was afraid that since there where alot of Seniors on the team that there would be some kind of hazing (since I'd heard about it on the news so much) but nothing, infact alot of the girls where overly protective of me if anything. My only experience with hazing has just been what I've seen on TV and read in books.
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Post by sotypical42483 on May 22, 2007 11:50:48 GMT -5
^Yeah I remember when I started high school, there were all these stories about what seniors did to incoming sophomores (our hs was grades 10-12 cause it was sooo huge), and I was all nervous, thinking I was gonna get tied to a tree or something. Nothing ever happened to anyone!
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Post by lyricalangel on May 23, 2007 16:16:50 GMT -5
^ Like the movie Dazed and Confused.
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Post by Lauren on May 23, 2007 17:19:14 GMT -5
When I made the drill team in high school, all the new members had to go around the whole day dressed like pigs and we had to wear a sandwich board and get people to sign it as our initation. That's the only case of hazing I've ever known about.
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Post by janey83 on Nov 12, 2007 16:34:54 GMT -5
^ I've only ever heard of hazing in college, if you pledge a fraternity or sorority. I did sports in high school and nothing like that ever happened. I had roommates in college who were pledging sororities, and one came home at 4am once smelling like garlic and sour milk -- she and her pledge sisters had to stand outside while the other sorority sisters poured all kinds of junk over them. If that isn't love, then I don't know what is.
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Post by aln1982 on Nov 12, 2007 16:44:10 GMT -5
^ I have heard of hazing in HS but never in Middle School. I guess SMS is really like HS, though. I think hazing is really stupid and can be so dangerous. I see no point in it, which is probably one reason I didn't like this book at all.
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Post by Penny Lane on Nov 12, 2007 18:52:27 GMT -5
I read this book for the first time today. I've been doing a complete series read, and I'm getting to the books now that I didn't read before. This is so exciting! (I have read a few of the later ones, when I bought them).
I liked this book a lot more than I expected too, I thought there was going to be a lot of Karen, but there really wasn't. That was something that I liked about the book, but it bothered me that it wasn't called "Kristy and the Softball Team" or something. Or "Kristy's Horrible Initiation Rite".
The Initiation didn't make a whole lot of sense to me, usually these things are things that you do as a team. The purpose of them is to build team/sorority/club togetherness. You break them down so you can build them up. It's much like boot camp, actually, only more humiliating. Just having them cause random destruction didn't make much sense to me.
The smoking seemed really random and thrown in, at least from my perspective. I know it was necessary so they would think they caused the fire, but it just seemed so weird and un BSC like. It also seemed unsoftball team like.
Because I went to a preK -8 program, I don't really know how jr highs actually work -- is there usually one team for the whole school? We had a team for each grade, so sixth graders would play against sixth graders, and so on. We played against the other 30 some catholic schools in the area. That part seemed weird to me, like they were trying to make the team like a varsity team or something.
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Post by morbiddadestiny on Nov 12, 2007 23:56:03 GMT -5
As for the hazing thing, I know it takes place in the US and all, but in MIDDLE SCHOOL?! I find it hard to believe they'd be so hardcore about it in 8th grade! you're forgetting that this is also a series in which there are night games with huge cheering crowds for a middle school basketball team, a huge school spirit MONTH for a middle school baseball team, cheerleaders and basketball players who can cut class under the claim of an "emergency practice", a personals column in a middle school newspaper, spring flings/dances every month, need i go on? once again, it helps for me to picture the girls as high schoolers. also i really liked this book. i remember getting butterflies in my stomach as i read the scene where kristy heard the news on the radio about the shed burning down. intense moment!
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Post by aln1982 on Nov 13, 2007 0:51:15 GMT -5
^ I also picture the girls as High Schoolers for many of the same reasons. ;D I do agree that the book was intense and pretty suspenseful in some parts. Karen was cute, too, even though she wasn't in it much. Was this the one where Claud and Stacey try to coach the Krushers? I did love that subplot. ;D
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Post by sweetvalleygirl99 on Nov 13, 2007 22:13:58 GMT -5
As for the hazing thing, I know it takes place in the US and all, but in MIDDLE SCHOOL?! I find it hard to believe they'd be so hardcore about it in 8th grade! you're forgetting that this is also a series in which there are night games with huge cheering crowds for a middle school basketball team, a huge school spirit MONTH for a middle school baseball team, cheerleaders and basketball players who can cut class under the claim of an "emergency practice", a personals column in a middle school newspaper, spring flings/dances every month, need i go on? once again, it helps for me to picture the girls as high schoolers. It helps for me to picture the girls as high schoolers too . I'm currently in high school now (senior year ) and our school doesn't even have (or do) all of the above events you mentioned. We don't have a spirit month, just spirit week for homecoming week, our athletes only get to cut class if they're going to a far away location for a game, we have average crowds for games, we only hold three major dances (Homecoming, Turnabout and Prom), and we don't have a personals column for our newspaper; we can't even do an advice column because it's not ethically right or something. I love school, but let's just say that real school is not like the BSC lol.
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Post by Amalia on Feb 16, 2008 19:39:51 GMT -5
Was this the one where Claud and Stacey try to coach the Krushers? I did love that subplot. ;D I love that sub plot. I thought that it was cute that Byron (was it) got a crush on Shannon after hitting her in the head with the ball. Hee hee. Just a like a guy.
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Post by greer on Feb 16, 2008 19:48:03 GMT -5
i like claudia and stacey's coaching outfits. I had a neon yellow and pink bird whistle that reminded me of claudia's.
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Post by Penny Lane on Feb 16, 2008 19:48:44 GMT -5
Was this the one where Claud and Stacey try to coach the Krushers? I did love that subplot. ;D I love that sub plot. I thought that it was cute that Byron (was it) got a crush on Shannon after hitting her in the head with the ball. Hee hee. Just a like a guy. It was Buddy, I think.
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