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Post by wiggir13 on May 28, 2011 16:38:22 GMT -5
I must say, I super love uncrustables!!!!! They do have a peanut butter honey - but it is with wheat bread and I just can't bring myself to try it!
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Post by Honeybee on Oct 8, 2011 1:27:08 GMT -5
The main plot was boring. The sub-plot was entertaining. It was nice of Richard giving MA her mother's necklace. The letter to Kristy, it was okay letter.
M/C I like they got their own rooms. Decorate how ever they like in their new rooms.
I never tried peanutbutter & banana sandwhich. I should try that, someday.
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Post by shannon86 on Oct 8, 2011 17:46:17 GMT -5
I just love this book! The story was just great and the subplot was cute too.
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Post by virgoscorpio on Mar 31, 2012 19:43:58 GMT -5
I always thought the cover was horrible, even as a kid. Not only do we get to stare at women's back muscles but I cringe on the pictures hanging on the wall and how they're placed. Dawn does look terrified, and now that always makes me think of, "Dawn realized that plastic flowers don't biodegrade" and it makes me chuckle.
I never really thought Dawn and Mary Anne being stepsisters was as big of a deal as it actually is. But when I think about it, what are the chances that your best-friend becomes your stepsister? That makes me wonder why Dawn even left for California and makes me kind of wonder about her relationship with Mary Anne and the rest of the BSC. I'm reading Dawn, Diary 1 and she says that she doesn't really miss MA or her other Connecticut friends.
I think that MA and Richard moved into the farmhouse because of the whole secret passage thing. Ann didn't want to lose that storyline. But you couldn't include it in any of the Chapter 2s anymore. Makes me wonder how small MA's house was actually. I always pictured it about the same size as Kristy's old house, which housed 6 people at one time.
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Post by wanderingfrog on Apr 1, 2012 14:14:44 GMT -5
^Yeah, they talk about how Mary Anne and Richard's house isn't big enough for Sharon and Dawn to move in and Jeff to visit sometimes... and then a family with two parents and four boys moves into it when the Spiers move out!
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Post by virgoscorpio on Apr 1, 2012 18:10:49 GMT -5
^ So true! That means that the boys would have had to pair up bedrooms, and I don't remember that being mentioned at the Hobart's.
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Post by Honeybee on Apr 4, 2012 0:35:17 GMT -5
I always thought the cover was horrible, even as a kid. Not only do we get to stare at women's back muscles but I cringe on the pictures hanging on the wall and how they're placed. Dawn does look terrified, and now that always makes me think of, "Dawn realized that plastic flowers don't biodegrade" and it makes me chuckle. I never really thought Dawn and Mary Anne being stepsisters was as big of a deal as it actually is. But when I think about it, what are the chances that your best-friend becomes your stepsister? That makes me wonder why Dawn even left for California and makes me kind of wonder about her relationship with Mary Anne and the rest of the BSC. I'm reading Dawn, Diary 1 and she says that she doesn't really miss MA or her other Connecticut friends. I think that MA and Richard moved into the farmhouse because of the whole secret passage thing. Ann didn't want to lose that storyline. But you couldn't include it in any of the Chapter 2s anymore. Makes me wonder how small MA's house was actually. I always pictured it about the same size as Kristy's old house, which housed 6 people at one time. I haven't read Dawn Diary 1. So, Dawn doesn't miss her step-sister & her friends. Wow.
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Post by virgoscorpio on Apr 4, 2012 14:46:45 GMT -5
^ It was sad, buttercup, at least to me personally. I do get the fact that friends drift apart, especially at that age. My best friend when I was 13 wasn't my friend in high school. We barely even talked. But the BSC seemed so close, especially to us who read about them a lot and are invested in the characters. I guess Dawn had the added factor of living across the country so the distance would have made it especially hard.
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Post by zoar3 on Apr 4, 2012 17:56:56 GMT -5
To be fair MA was never truly invested in Dawn either. We've (I've) discussed this many times but whatever their relationship was aside from the very early days it wasn't too healthy. I think Dawn was grateful to MA for being someone to have fun with initially and help make her feel somewhat at home at CT. Dawn may have even grown a little closer to MA after the wedding. IMO, even by that time, (Dawn on the Coast) Dawn had realized CT did not=home for her and she (in a way) was marking time until the ghostwriter allowed her first move to CA. I have never read any CD. Hearing that Dawn actually said that was plain mean. IIRC, she echoed that thought at other times (back in CA) as well. Meanwhile MA was still pining away for her in CT. We know what always happened when Dawn came back. BSC (MA driven) fell all over her with parties and gifts. MA "has to" go to Hawaii "because Dawn is." I still think if Dawn had stayed in CT, MA would have, too.
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Post by sparklymouse on Apr 4, 2012 18:00:17 GMT -5
I wouldn't read too much into Dawn not missing Mary Anne. In Graduation Day everyone but Kristy was pretty much like "We're not going to be very close anymore. Peace out.". Dawn just got a head start on the inevitable.
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Post by zoar3 on Apr 4, 2012 18:09:29 GMT -5
^That's a good point, Sparklymouse. Sad but probably very true. I think for me what still "hurts" (yes, angers, as well) is that because MA was so caught up in Dawn, for most of the entire saga of knowing her she (MA) in a sense wrote off her other friends, certainly Kristy. I would have loved some closure there. Not a huge BSC, "I'm sorry" call-out as a group but MA finally realizing, that maybe she hasn't been the best friend to Kristy especially. IDK, just the Kristy fan in me or maybe I just don't like seeing anyone let down by someone who they used to be close to that way. I know, I know Kristy never stepped up to MA either but you know what I mean. I am an ancient hold-out wanting to believe they stayed close simply because that type of early friendship is so rare and sounded so very dibbly fresh.
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Post by supprazz on Jul 17, 2012 2:24:42 GMT -5
^ So true! That means that the boys would have had to pair up bedrooms, and I don't remember that being mentioned at the Hobart's. I think the three younger boys share bunk beds, it was mentioned in Farewell Dawn if I'm not mistaken. So the other rooms belonged to the parents and Ben.
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Post by zoar3 on Jul 17, 2012 8:43:44 GMT -5
^IIRC, Johnny, Mathew, and James, were thrilled by the idea of bunk beds. I just checked and at the bottom of page 109 is this:
"Bunk Beds! Cooler than cool!" I (MAL) heard James yell happily.
At the top of the next page 110, "We've always wanted bunk beds," Mathew explained. (The boys were jumping around the beds to Mal's horror.
I don't think we ever got much of a gimpse into life at the Hobarts' other than the kitchen scene in "Claudia and the Bad Joke," or in one of Logan's books when he played "camping" with Johnny and Mathew. I always wished Johnny and Jamie Newton had stayed friends (to our knowledge). I can sort of understand if Nicky at 8, didn't want to play with Mathew 7, because M was one year younger. On the other hand N could have tried to show the triplets that "younger" could be "cool" that way.
Back to bunk beds. I had them from 8-13. I thought they were super cool. I loved making a tent out of them or just feeling cool but also safer up top.
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Post by supprazz on Jul 17, 2012 9:59:08 GMT -5
Oh oops, it was the triplets bunks in Mallory hates boys. Mixed it up again. My memory is really failing me
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Post by greer on Jul 17, 2012 18:55:41 GMT -5
^IIRC, Johnny, Mathew, and James, were thrilled by the idea of bunk beds. I just checked and at the bottom of page 109 is this: "Bunk Beds! Cooler than cool!" I (MAL) heard James yell happily. At the top of the next page 110, "We've always wanted bunk beds," Mathew explained. (The boys were jumping around the beds to Mal's horror. I don't think we ever got much of a gimpse into life at the Hobarts' other than the kitchen scene in "Claudia and the Bad Joke," or in one of Logan's books when he played "camping" with Johnny and Mathew. I always wished Johnny and Jamie Newton had stayed friends (to our knowledge). I can sort of understand if Nicky at 8, didn't want to play with Mathew 7, because M was one year younger. On the other hand N could have tried to show the triplets that "younger" could be "cool" that way. Back to "bunk beds." I had them from 8-13. I thought they were super cool. I loved making a tent out of them or just feeling cool but also safer up top. I think there is some of the Hobarts' home life in Mallory Hates Boys (and Gym), when the Pike boys go to stay at the Hobarts' house.
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