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Post by Kylie90210 on Nov 18, 2009 17:55:05 GMT -5
Just re-read this. I don't think Dawn went back to hating Carol, I think reality sunk in, and yes, she realised she wasn't going to get that much attention anymore. Plus, Carol seemed to be around alot more, and she probably found her annoying. I totally remembered nothing from this book, so it was like reading it again. Not a bad read though
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Post by otempora541 on Nov 18, 2009 18:17:10 GMT -5
I don't think Dawn went back to hating Carol, I think reality sunk in, and yes, she realised she wasn't going to get that much attention anymore. Thanks for mentioning this Kylie: when I was reading CD Dawn diary two, there was a small issue that Dawn realized that when Grace was born, there would be little attention paid to her now. So is Dawn just an attention starved child?
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Post by sparklymouse on Nov 18, 2009 18:20:47 GMT -5
Dawn is stupid. When I was thirteen I wanted my parents to pay as little attention to me as possible.
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Post by msstock87 on Nov 20, 2009 1:27:50 GMT -5
^I did too, I was going through that awkward teenage phase, and kind of wanted to be left alone to deal with being an adolescent.
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Post by anzuhana on Mar 29, 2010 11:01:42 GMT -5
Maybe. When she made her decision to run back to Stoneybrook, one part of her reasoning was that she was wanted by her family and friends in Stoneybrook.
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Post by oldhickory on Mar 29, 2010 12:10:55 GMT -5
dawn has always been my least favorite sitter, so for me it's hard to empathize with her when she overreacts and feels unwanted. when my dad got remarried i was kind of pissed because i don't like my stepmom (we still don't REALLY get along), but out of respect for her and for my dad i agreed to be in the wedding and make it a good experience for them. now that my boyfriend and i have been together for a few years i'm starting to think about my own wedding, and to have someone ruin that experience and make it about herself INSTEAD OF the bride is just so disrespectful and low. i'll be the first to admit that i'm somewhat of a control freak, so if dawn did that to me on my wedding day, i'd beat the crap out of her and resent her for the rest of my life. i'm pretty impressed with carol, and if she resented dawn i wouldn't blame her.
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Post by anzuhana on Mar 29, 2010 13:10:47 GMT -5
I agree about Carol, oldhickory. I wouldn't blame her either if she resented Dawn for the stunt she pulled. I already wrote this on an earlier post but if I was Carol, I might have tried to make Dawn feel a bit more guilty by asking her if she really meant what she wrote in the letter that she wrote in California Girls because what she did was pretty low.
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Post by zoar3 on Jun 26, 2011 21:15:35 GMT -5
Dawn is still my "tied-for-first" least favorite sitter. I think in this one she just might be “the worst." The truth is, had she been honest about not feeling apart of EITHER of her "new" families, I probably would have liked her a whole lot more and empathized. This book should have focused on those feelings and would have (probably) been great. We know in "Dawn's Family Feud," just before her big announcement, Dawn is watching her mom, Richard, and Mary Anne, laughing and enjoying being together as a family--a family that she, Dawn does not feel like a member of. Do you ladies think Dawn ever did? I am starting to think she didn't. To combat the above, Dawn moves to CA, hoping like magic, "happier days" will be back, similar to before the divorce. She's heard how happy Jeff is and most likely that her Dad's relationship with his son has gotten stronger. She (makes sense) wants that for herself. Maybe initially Dawn did find greater happiness in CA. I begrudgingly hope she did, lol, yes in part to "keep her there." Wham, Carol the intruder comes along. Not only does Dawn have to accept (whether she ever hoped for this or not we'll never know, just a guess) the chances of her mom and dad reuniting have been crushed completely, but, there's a new "main" female person in her dad's life. Even the "chance" of it being like the "Three Musketeers," of Dawn, Jack, and Jeff, are gone. what was "odd" was that she realized (out loud, to "us") that her Dad was happy and that made her glad. Other than initially when Sharon had begun "smiling" again over re-connecting with Richard, was Dawn ever happy for her mom?
Good time to call in "Dr. Reese" or something. Of course in the following book, "MA and the Library Mystery," MA begins her saga of pining away for Dawn so, lol; it's a toss up over which was more annoying.
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Post by polaris on Jun 27, 2011 12:23:13 GMT -5
I think Dawn was happy when her mom was dating Richard and excited about their marriage, the problems started when they moved in together.
I always thought Dawn and Jeff were close and she always seemed to miss California, and I think while she would never leave her mother on her own, perhaps when she saw how happy she was with Richard and Mary Anne, she felt she didn't have to feel guilty about moving back to California.
The whole running back to Stoneybrook and being a total brat to Carol made her very annoying in this book though. I agree with Zoar3 would have been better if it focused more on her readjustment in her california family.
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Post by zoar3 on Jun 27, 2011 15:37:37 GMT -5
^ITA agree, Polaris. I think since there was zero time spent together as a family before the marriage that Dawn, Sharon, Jeff, Richard, and Mary Anne never had the chance to try out their potential new relationship. Also Sharon, Jeff, and Dawn (imo) didn't seem to connect as a new family of three before Richard came into the picture either, so that couldn't have helped any. IDK, I still am not a fan of the way Sharon immediately moved cross country.
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Post by wiggir13 on Jul 3, 2011 23:31:57 GMT -5
Ok - and you know I can't stand Dawn so take it for what it is - but good grief. Had I pulled a stunt like this my mom probably would have sent me to one of those camps that kick the bad person out of you.
I would have enjoyed the book you suggested too Zoar. I just get very frustrated with Dawn and feel like she isn't happy anywhere. The answer is not to just move here and move there. I do agree that some sort of therapy would be a good idea, probably for everyone in this family. I don't feel like they have dealt with any of the issues from the divorce and move and I don't think that Dawn should have been able to move every six months. How would that be good for anyone is this situation?
It is funny, my dad died when I was very young and my mom never dated. She told me later in life that it was because she was afraid of how it would affect me and if the guy would turn out to be a perv. What a crazy sacrifice and it makes me sad that she had to go through life alone so I would hope that I would have been happy my mom was happy. I guess the parents in the BSC just don't seem to care as much about their kids adjustments etc.
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Post by zoar3 on Jul 4, 2011 16:51:09 GMT -5
I'm sorry about your Dad, Wiggirl. I think my own Dad similar thoughts about dating (women) after my biological mom was out of the picture in terms of their marriage. (She didn't die, though).
As for Dawn, all of you know what I think of her already so I'll just second what Wiggirl said above. The person I feel worst for still is Richard. I know the books always said he and Sharon were happy and in love but we rarely "saw" that; I hope it was true.
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Post by wiggir13 on Jul 4, 2011 18:48:04 GMT -5
I feel bad for both Richard and carol b/c I think the dysfunction of Dawn really affected their relationships with their partner.
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Post by zoar3 on Jul 4, 2011 19:04:31 GMT -5
^Good point. Also with Carol, Jack jumped all over her, eventually calling off their engagement due to Dawn's (unwarranted) behavior. So Carol got flack from both sides. Although Richard, had to deal both with Dawn's constant moving and his own daughter's "unique" (I'm being polite) reactions to it. I don't think MA ever did talk with Richard or Sharon about missing Dawn, did she?
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Post by wiggir13 on Jul 4, 2011 20:25:41 GMT -5
I don't think she ever did. I wonder though, did she ever express it to anyone except us in the many lamentings she had in the books?
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