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Post by anzuhana on Jan 27, 2011 12:35:28 GMT -5
I noticed. I think the reason she does this is because she's insecure and calls herself an individual to make herself feel better and make people think she has good self-esteem.
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Post by wiggir13 on May 27, 2011 18:19:52 GMT -5
^ the duckface! you guys have to check out antiduckface.com, it's gold. (i am not sure how to make this a link, sorry.) This is amazing!!!!! I just reread this one and I really miss reading those teen magazines. Teenbeat, Tigerbeat, Bop. They all had such great dating advice.......It really was exactly what the book said! I liked this subplot alot. I guess it is because I can certainly relate. During my own weight loss journey, I lost 100 pounds and my mom just said - keep going. She then just proceeds to tell me every time she sees me what I should eat and shouldn't. Good lord! It is sad that Norman thinks his parents don't love him just because of that but shame on them for not knowing him better than just their fat son! I love the dancercise video that MA has. For some reason I imagine Richard Simmons sweating to the oldies! Richard Simmons, a true individual. Take note Dawn....flashy sweatbands, super short show your junk shorts, and a hooooootttt pink wife beater - that's the way to go.
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Post by supprazz on May 28, 2011 21:15:02 GMT -5
^ The way Norman's parents treated him was parallel to how Mary Anne was treating Dawn
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Post by polaris on Jun 16, 2011 12:01:30 GMT -5
Just re-read this. I thought Mary Anne was horrible to Dawn in this book. I didn't mind her at the start helping Dawn experiment with her looks, that was fine ad supportive. I didn't like itwhen she gave Dawn all those magazines on dating advice and then when Dawn tried to follow the advice, Mary Anne criticised her and kept pinching her during the date. Also several of her comments to Dawn it's no wonder Dawn was feeling insecure, after the date she tells Dawn it's not her fault Dawn did everything wrong, she was doing her best to make the date a success and basically saying before that if she wanted Lewis to like her she couldn't be herself. I thought Mary Annne was meant to be the sensitive one.
As for the sub-plot the Hills were horrible people and as I think someone else pointed out why the hell did they keep so much junk food in the house and just stick up signs telling Norman he couldn't eat any of it, that made no sense!
I liked that it wasn't just Dawn babysitting for the Hills all the time, that Claudia, Stacey and Mary Anne got to bring something different to the plot, like Claudia actually liked bratty Sarah and Stacey got to tell Norman about her diabetes.
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Post by candykane on Jun 17, 2011 13:06:12 GMT -5
As for the sub-plot the Hills were horrible people and as I think someone else pointed out why the hell did they keep so much junk food in the house and just stick up signs telling Norman he couldn't eat any of it, that made no sense! It didn't make sense. The Hill parents were portrayed as super-healthy and probably not into eating junk, and since they didn't want Norman eating it, who were they buying it for? Sarah? Plus, Sarah said Norman hid junk food in his room. Wasn't he only seven? Where did he get enough money for a junk food stash and where did he buy it? Or was he just taking things from the kitchen and hiding them in his room?
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Post by polaris on Jun 17, 2011 13:44:59 GMT -5
Ya even Sarah didn't seem to eat junk food much, when she went on a picnic she took a bunch of bananas with her!
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Post by zoar3 on Jun 17, 2011 16:50:59 GMT -5
^The only things I can think of are either he stocked up at friends' houses, traded for the junk food at school, or I guess it's conceivable (though very doubtful) he stole it. It did sound like he had a lot. Hey maybe he "borrowed" from or paid Claudia (to get him the stuff)!
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Post by wiggir13 on Jun 17, 2011 22:10:09 GMT -5
I'm going to maybe hope that the Hills felt food was the only thing that made Norman happy and they did want him to be happy. So they bought it, but then felt bad so they criticized him. I guess they thought in moderation it would be okay.
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Post by zoar3 on Jun 17, 2011 22:20:13 GMT -5
^This is a horrible thing to say, but at times it seemed like Norman's parents didn't even like him. :/ One "funny" thing about this book was that there was a not-so-nice character named Elizabeth; maybe Ann was "mad" at her friend?
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Post by virgoscorpio on Dec 6, 2011 1:12:24 GMT -5
So this was the first New Years Eve that Jessi was allowed to stay up past midnight? How babyish! haha.
Dawn says something snarky about Mary Anne in this book. "Mary Anne looked pretty, but not especially special." What kind of best-friend/stepsister says that!?
Mary Anne, Dawn, Logan and Lewis end up going to see Gone With the Wind. I know it's a romantic movie and all, and that was the point, but what group of 13 year olds go see a film like that? Very rare...
The BSC loves their movie scenes where the girls have hand-in-popcorn-moments-with-dates. Wasn't there also one in Kristy + Bart = ?
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Post by supprazz on Feb 10, 2012 2:53:10 GMT -5
^ In Mary Anne Saves The Day, when she first laid her eyes on Dawn and they were talking, I distinctively remember Mary Anne narrating that she wasn't really pretty or anything like that, though she described her hair colour. I guess it was a continuation of that sister-war In Ann M. Martin's world, everyone is an old soul with good taste, that's why we have the Gone With the Wind fans and the Aretha Franklin fans
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Post by candykane on Feb 24, 2012 21:50:07 GMT -5
Dawn says something snarky about Mary Anne in this book. "Mary Anne looked pretty, but not especially special." What kind of best-friend/stepsister says that!? Don't remember that one. Those two did seem to think bitchy thoughts about one another often enough. Or go far enough to say it out loud, like Mary Anne sniping that the dress Dawn was wearing (borrowed from MA) looked "a little tight." Or Dawn telling MA she had a boy haircut and clown makeup. Maybe this was done to make them seem more realistic as stepsisters adjusting to their new family situation? I always hated that Dawn had a black and blue mark from Mary Anne pinching her at the movies. Cool it, MA.
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Post by booboobrewer on Feb 25, 2012 18:31:02 GMT -5
Re: "not especially special," Dawn's referring to Mary Anne's outfit/hair for their double movie date. Mary Anne says Logan likes her the way she is and she doesn't need to look perfect, but Dawn needs to for Lewis...basically doing her best to make Dawn feel insecure
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Post by shannon86 on Feb 25, 2012 22:08:57 GMT -5
I love this book a lot! The cover art is wonderful and Logan's cousin is adorable.
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Post by virgoscorpio on Feb 26, 2012 0:03:44 GMT -5
I thought Mary Anne refers to Dawn as being pretty, when she first meets her in Mary Anne Saves the Day?
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