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Post by zoar3 on Mar 25, 2014 15:50:54 GMT -5
Jack talking with Dawn on the beach is my favorite scene in this one. They both seemed so close and their father/daughter relationship natural. I loved that Jack remembered about the secret passage at the farmhouse and have always wished his visit in BSC in the USA had allowed him and Dawn, maybe Jeff and even Nicky Pike too to check it out together. I also laughed and thought it was awesome how when Watson came home from work to find the BSC had arrived for a sleepover he greeted the other (non Kristy) girls by saying, "I have 6 more daughters" or something like that.
Reading this did make me miss going to Disney Land. I hope to be able to go back sometime. And back to the Thomas-Brewers, I hadn't realized that Edie wonders aloud "how another child would fit into the mix?" I believe she also said something about a baby in "Pet Sitter." I guess there were a couple references to Emily (sort of) just no conversations. :/
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Post by starrynight on Apr 5, 2014 22:45:57 GMT -5
^ Yeah, some of those early to mid series books featured a lot of foreshadowing. I particularly remember the pre-Emily comments, and the lead-up to Stacey getting sick in #43.
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Post by thejunkbucket on Sept 5, 2015 15:50:54 GMT -5
One of my friends liked BSC for a little while because I showed her Jeff's picture on this book (we were nine or ten) and she thought he was hott. When I was 10, I bought a Hardy Boys paperback with my birthday money simply because I thought both brothers looked 'cute' on the cover. Never did read the book, though. :-P
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Post by thejunkbucket on Sept 5, 2015 15:56:00 GMT -5
"Okay, so I really like this book (despite all the sunny CA references;"
That used to bother me, too, until I grew up and visited my brother, who was stationed in San Diego. (We're from New England.) They're not kidding about it 'always being sunny in SoCal'! Unlike Dawn, I came to resent the constant sunny weather. I love my four seasons!
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Post by thejunkbucket on Sept 5, 2015 16:15:43 GMT -5
"I laughed when Jessi stretches out her legs at the sleepover and Mary Anne is like "Wow!" That's probably in the sexual references thread..."Ha! I did, too! But I think MA was just amazed that Jessi was able to contort her body like that to pose for Claudia's portrait. Here's the description: "Claudia got some pieces of paper from Kristy's desk and drew little caricatures of us all. When Jessi posed for hers, she sat on the floor, her legs stretched out on either side of her and her torso folded all the way over so her stomach was flat on the ground. "Wow!" said Mary Anne."I couldn't find an actual picture, but Jessi was doing the splits like this, and then her top half was bent over, with her stomach resting on the ground: www.edancescience.org/ref/str/alaseconde_seated.jpgIt doesn't look comfortable at all, so if I saw someone doing that, I too would have reacted like MA. BTW: I also thought it was funny that Jessi was able to catch a runaway Shannon (the puppy) when no one else could by doing a grand jeté:www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHivyA_fwpA
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Post by thejunkbucket on Sept 5, 2015 16:26:53 GMT -5
"I thought the scene where the flight attendant ignored her because she (the flight attendant) was too busy helping Tom, who was sitting next to Dawn."
A similar thing happened to me, when I visited my brother in San Diego ten years ago. Not that I'm chopped liver myself, but I was seated next to this ridiculously good-looking Middle Eastern man (i.e. tall, classically handsome, broad-shouldered, short thick wavy black hair, green-ish eyes, swarthy complexion, wearing a snazzy suit). He also had the aisle seat, and I had the window. Anyway, the female (and one obviously gay) flight attendants fell over themselves trying to serve him, making excuses to come to our section, but at the same time forgetting about me, even when I would chime in with a drink order. I made a couple sarcastic remarks about it when they ignored me and left ("Yah, I spic vedy well Een-glesh," I muttered in a fake accent) and he laughed.
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Post by CharlotteTJohanssen on Sept 5, 2015 16:27:38 GMT -5
I used to be able to do those splits, no wonder I have knee problems from gymnastics and ballet.
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Post by thejunkbucket on Sept 5, 2015 16:36:29 GMT -5
"i reread this book up the other day and was shocked how tan dawn and jeff look on the cover. if you cover their faces up they genuinely look black "
It always bothered me that they usually didn't illustrate Dawn and Jeff according to the descriptions in the book(s). For instance, when Dawn's father brings them to the beach, Dawn makes it a point to mention that everyone (Jeff's friend, Dawn's WLKC friends, Dad) was some shade of blond, except Dawn and Jeff were the blondest, their hair was practically white. But on this cover they look more sandy-haired. I think the only time they were truly tow-headed was on the cover of The Ghost at Dawn's House.
Incidentally, another minor pet peeve was the title of this book: Dawn on the Coast. It would've been more accurate to title it Dawn on the West Coast, because Stoneybrook is on the coast, too. The east coast.
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Post by booboobrewer on Sept 6, 2015 15:57:29 GMT -5
^that makes me think of the movie Tootsie (I saw it on a rooftop in NYC this summer!) when Sydney Pollack is on the phone in his office "with the coast" when Dustin Hoffman bursts in. And Hoffman says, "I'm a coast too...New York is a coast!"
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Post by bscfan1997 on Nov 21, 2015 13:58:04 GMT -5
I haven't reread DOTC in a LONG time. Like maybe a year or two, maybe three? Anyway, I started rereading it last night. I'm on chapter 4. I think this is the last Dawn book before she became annoying and hateful. I couldn't stand her anymore by Dawn's Wicked Stepsister. I did like her in the ones when she lives in California full-time. I guess she got awful when she had to live in Stoneybrook with her stepsister MA and stepfather Richard. Heh. Dawn was truly laid back in the impossible three, ghost at Dawn's house, little miss Stoneybrook, and this one. Wicked stepsister and beyond she was ugh terrible.
I liked the sleepover in the beginning of the book. The girls truly acted 13 and like real friends instead of business women/co-workers. I liked how Jessi did a grand jete to catch Shannon the puppy. The kids acting crazy and hyper was funny. Was the horror movie they watched a real one or just a made up one? It sounded really cheesy and fun. Jessi cracked me up with her pose for Claudia's picture. The descriptions of her stretching and whatnot can be somewhat painful but funny. Idk why. It's just amusing!
The plane flight is enjoyable, too. Odd how Dawn said she wasn't a strict vegetarian. Her vegetarian habits sure changed throughout the series. The flight attendant was hilarious and it was cute how dawn was attracted by the older handsome guy.
Oh, and I liked how close dawn and Sharon were. Sharon may be a total space head, but she's the only BSC parent besides Mrs. McGill and Mrs. And mr. Pike and sometimes the Kishi's who's active in her daughter's life. Dawn and Sharon seemed like sisters or best friends rather than mother and daughter. They remind me of the Gilmore girls. Also at this point in the series Sharon wasn't THAT scatterbrained yet.
I'll post more when I finish the book...
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Post by inge on Dec 30, 2015 8:13:19 GMT -5
I like this book. I just reread it and I like Dawns relationship with her mom, dad, and Jeff in this a lot. They interact realistically and it's clear they love each other. I felt really bad for Jeff when Dawn decided to move back to CT - I felt it was a mistake to tell him se might come back. He was only a child: it would have been better to only tell him when it was definite so as not to get his hopes up! I was a bit annoying that the story was interrupted with babysitting scenes in Stoneybrook, I did not care as much for them. I liked both the Stoneybrook and CA goodbye parties a lot though. Dawn went through a lot at a young age with her family literally being torn apart. There is just no right solution to her problem, she will always have at least one loved one thousands of miles away, which is really sad. I'm in a situation right now where I've lived in so many places that I'm not sure which one to call home anymore, and wondering if it is time to move closer to my mom, and that is no situation for a 13 year old to find herself in. I felt bad for her especially because of the sense of obligation she had towards her mother to stay in CT. Completely understandable, but a lot of pressure on a young girl. Rereading made me understand why she ultimately choose California: it just seems a better fit for her. As a vegetarian I used to be super super annoyed when Dawn ate any animals, but I don't care as much anymore. It's just one of these inconsistencies: in my head she's a vegetarian, but like some of my 'vegetarian' friends, she sins once in a while.
As in Holland I don't have access to the American books (unless willing to pay outrageous shipping fees) I'm stuck reading the translations which are pretty bad. Like they were fine when I was a child but the language is really outdated, everyone has the same name (it's ridiculous) and the names are super old fashioned, etc. etc. I try not to discuss that on here since I know nobody shares this experience, but in this case, another one of the ridiculous things they did was change the setting from CT to Holland, which might be considered nice for children, but the setting of the town is so obviously American that it often doesn't make sense for us anyway; also, all of the traditions have to be changed to fit Dutch ones, which again often just seems a little pathetic and very much failed. Young kids are exposed to American media everyday: we would have had no problem reading about the girls in the US where the context makes more sense. Anyway so this long story is to say, they changed SoCal to Suriname (a former colony) for this one which is obviously ridiculous. I'm sure I don't need to explain how a poor South American country with a very small population is nothing like California. Most people in Suriname are of indigenous, African and/or Indonesian descent, so I automatically picture everyone Dawn interacts with there as dark-skinned until proven a blonde hippy. Also, while the translator made some effort to work in traditional dishes into the book, this also means that suddenly health food goes out the window and Dawn eats meat, cakes, with no tofu in sight. But that is still not why I am choosing to bring this up - it is because before I read through this thread, I had no idea they ever went to Disneyland in this book - there was no effort to translate it, the entire chapter was just binned! That is so dissapointing!! At first I thought it might be the chapter where Dawn goes to the fair with the kids, but after some research I found it really is a chapter that's just gone up in thin air and that dissapoints me a lot. (in the SS where they all go to California/Suriname, they've come up with the incredibly implausible solution of flying to Disneyland, which is about as far as flying back home to Holland, as only 4 SS's were ever translated they should've just picked another one because apart from both places being sunny, it makes no sense). Dawn is also made out to go to Suriname 4 weeks instead of as I gather, 2 in the original, which means that with a chapter missing it seems like she basically lands, goes to the beach, and then has to go home.
Anyway overall a good book, though, can't wait until I have some serious money to ship over the originals and see what else I've missed out on.
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Post by wistfuldreamer86 on Oct 21, 2018 19:59:36 GMT -5
Also liked seeing Dawn's realtionship with all her family members in this one. It was great to finally meet Jack, he seemed pretty down to earth and listened to Dawn's dilemma without swaying her one way or the other. I also enjoyed reading about Jeff in this one, I'm glad he's a fun kid again instead of the sullen child he was in the last Dawn book. I also liked meeting her CA friends and charges. Though I also find it hard to believe that everyone in her life is blonde and vegetarian. Though her definition of vegetarian is a little off since she eats fish.
I also liked the slumber party at the beginning of the book, it was sweet to see them all bonding before she left. I always enjoy BSC moments like that.
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Post by anzuhana on Oct 22, 2018 7:12:40 GMT -5
Perhaps Dawn is a pescetarian at this point. They're supposed to be vegetarians, who only eat fish meat. I read that Kari Bryon (who worked on Mythbusters at one point) is a pescetarian but refers to herself as a vegetarian because more people are aware of the latter world.
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Post by oldhickory on Oct 22, 2018 9:47:04 GMT -5
^ That's kind of how I do it, too. I sometimes eat vegan, sometimes vegetarian, and sometimes fish. My diet has fluctuated a lot in the last few years and having one umbrella word is the easiest, even if it's not completely accurate.
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Post by wistfuldreamer86 on Oct 22, 2018 11:19:58 GMT -5
That makes sense. I'm a vegetarian, but I don't eat fish so I don't think of it as being the same thing. That explains why people have asked me if I eat fish when I say that I'm vegetarian, lol.
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