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Post by greer on Mar 13, 2014 17:39:09 GMT -5
Yeah I don't get having a 13-year-old in a booster seat. I was my adult height at 11 or 12.
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Post by mallorypike on Mar 13, 2014 18:16:49 GMT -5
I don't get having a 13 year old in a booster seat either. Unless the 13 year old is extremely short for his/her age, it doesn't make sense. I grew out of my booster seat when I was nine and I started sitting in the front seat around 11. Nowadays, people are a lot more careful (and sometimes paranoid) about car safety. Margo sitting in the front seat would never happen today!
Reading this thread makes me want to reread this book!
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Post by Honeybee on Mar 13, 2014 21:23:48 GMT -5
Well, when I was a kid. My dad let me sit up in the front seat. I was 4 years old. I remember, one year, my dad took me to my speech therapy. When, I was done with therapy, went home. I peed my pants, onto the passenger seat. My mom wasn't happy about it. My dad thought, I could hold it, until I got home from my therapy to use the restroom. We didn't had booster seats. Once your turn three or four. You sit in regular seat. Our parents allowed us ride in the front, if we wanted to. If, your parents or friends parents had a station wagon. You can ride in the back of the trunk. Wouldn't get pulled over.
I don't get it either. Here in Michigan. A kid must be in booster seat until their 8 or over 4 ft 9 or weigh over 80 lbs to be in regular seat.
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Post by mallorypike on Mar 13, 2014 21:45:31 GMT -5
I was short for my age when I was growing up and I barely weighed anything so it was a while till I sat in a regular seat and the front seat.
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Post by sparklymouse on Mar 13, 2014 21:53:24 GMT -5
Yeah, I remember riding in the un-seated back of the station wagon all the time. I don't remember being in a booster seat at all, but my childhood memory is not very impressive.
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Post by Honeybee on Mar 22, 2014 13:00:41 GMT -5
I decide to reread it in order. (Hard to read it randomly.) Just skip the chapters, that I already read. The Smithtown sounds like a nice Historical Museum go to. I love Historical museums. If, I went to Sea City, that will be the one place, I want go to. Okay back to the book. I notices, Mr. & Mrs. Pike was gone alot. They mention, when their having breakfast. But, mostly it was Stacey & Mary Anne watching the kids all the time. (Expect when Stacey & Mary Anne went out on double date with two guys.) If, Mr. & Mrs. Pike, want to be alone. Why bring the kids to Sea City? All you read was, Mr. & Mrs. Pike wanted to be alone. (Expect when Stacey & Mary Anne, had their nights off.)
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Post by mallorypike on Mar 22, 2014 20:14:28 GMT -5
^ Yeah, I noticed that, too. If they wanted to be alone all the time, why bring your kids to Sea City. Mr. and Mrs. Pike can be selfish at times--they are usually too lazy to take care of their own kids. They are constantly wanting time to themselves and they take advantage of Mallory and the BSC to look after the kids.
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Post by Honeybee on Mar 22, 2014 22:36:49 GMT -5
^Exactly. If, they want get away from 8 kids. They should have left them home. But, then, Stacey wouldn't met the lifeguard Scott or the helper boy, Toby.
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Post by Natasha on Nov 9, 2017 9:32:45 GMT -5
This was always my absolute favorite when I was little. Basically, I loved the books about Sea City and this was the one that started it all. Scott was a downright perve - he was eighteen and Stacey had just turned thirteen and he's looking at her (clad only in a bikini, mind you!) appreciatively and saying "hey beautiful" and sending her on little errands. Although in hindsight, was Toby any better? It always annoyed me how Stacey left the $10 box of chocolates on the bench. What a waste! Also - and I can't remember whether it was this book or Mary Anne and Too Many Boys - but how realistic is it that a brunette would be burnt to a crisp while a flaming redhead with freckles would be turning a "delicate golden brown" - dumb! The BSC girls were always baking themselves in the sun and attempting to tan, something that would be unlikely to occur if those books were written now. Knowing the BSC, we'd be given a lecture on the potential dangers and skin cancer risk. In a way, Toby was worse because in Mary-Anne and Too Many Boys, he struck out with Stacey and Mallory who is eleven and he's fourteen for pete's sake! And then when he struck out with her, he tries it with Jessi! A girl he doesn't even know. Sheesh. I just reread this one again and I don't think Scott meant too much to Stacey because she was in love with Toby five minutes after finding out about Scott.
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Post by oldhickory on Nov 9, 2017 11:52:56 GMT -5
I wouldn't agree that Toby is a bigger perv, but in my opinion Scott is fairly blameless. He didn't ever want a relationship with Stacey. He used her for free sodas and sandwiches, but that's pretty harmless in the long run. On the other hand, Toby had actual relationships with these girls. He was even Stacey's first kiss. Had we stopped at the first book I would say that Scott is more of a predator, but taking into account the events of Sea City, Here We Come, Toby feels more predatory than Scott. Simply because Scott's end goal was a soda and Toby's end goal was a relationship.
It's amazing how much my impression of Scott has changed since I called him a jackass five years ago!
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Post by Sideshowjazz1 on Mar 4, 2018 2:06:07 GMT -5
I wouldn't agree that Toby is a bigger perv, but in my opinion Scott is fairly blameless. He didn't ever want a relationship with Stacey. He used her for free sodas and sandwiches, but that's pretty harmless in the long run. It's amazing how much my impression of Scott has changed since I called him a jackass five years ago! I don't think Scott's friendship with Stacey was all sodas. The day after, Stacey thought about it and decided that while he was using her for those things, she thought that Scott genuinely liked her, but just as a friend, or even just a little kid. The question is, did he realize that he was leading her on, or was Stacey just misreading him? That's something to think about.
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Post by wistfuldreamer86 on Aug 25, 2018 16:25:47 GMT -5
^ That's a good point. Often in these stories, the characters are saying one thing but sometimes something else is going on. The little "pet names" seems to be his way of talking with everyone. So maybe he wasn't trying to use her/lead her on, it's just how he talks to girls. Not ideal though and it can easily come across as creepy given the age difference. "Cutie" isn't bad, but calling her "love" and asking if anyone ever told her she's beautiful, definitely crosses a line. I think we're supposed to learn, just as Stacey did, to be careful with an older guy. Just because you think they like you, it doesn't mean they do. Compared with her first book, Stacey's voice in this one felt very immature. But maybe the point is that, as sophisticated as Stacey seems, she's still just learning like the rest of the girls. She wasn't fair to Mary Anne throughout much of the book and let her crush interfere with her job. It also took her away from the kids, whom she genuinely likes/cares for. The moment with Byron was nice. Overall, this book was a lot of summer fun. And it's actually one that stuck in my mind. I remembered "Burger Garden" in some ways. I just remembered they went to some special burger place that sounded like a lot of fun when I was younger, lol. Not sure how I forgot about the mini golf though.
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Post by hannah26 on Jun 21, 2020 17:06:38 GMT -5
I luv this book! It’s one of my favorite BSC books ever! I’m surprised it wasn’t in the ‘specials’ series because like most of the specials it describes some of the babysitters on holiday away from Stoneybrook. It’s a quick, fun and romantic summer read. I must have read it back in 1999 the first time round. Scott is a bit of a jerk, by leading Stacey on and telling her she was beautiful. I think his character enjoyed the attention he got from the girls and he encouraged it. It wasn’t professional with him being a lifeguard to act that way towards minors. In real life his girlfriend wouldn’t have been happy either. I was also expecting Mr and Mrs Pike to confront Stacey and/or Scott towards the end regarding their behaviour. I also remember the first time I read the book I really did think Stacey and Scott might have a sort of summer romance despite the age gap. But the real ending was so much more realistic. I love the description of the Pikes beach house. It’s described more like a gothic beach mansion. Mr and Mrs Pike must be quite wealthy to have 8 kids and to provide for them like they do. This sort of annual holiday wouldn’t be cheap. The BSC Super Special Sea City Here We Come is a fun sequel.
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Post by wanderingfrog on Jun 21, 2020 20:46:37 GMT -5
I recently got the new edition of Claudia and Mean Janine, and I noticed that in the excerpt from #8 at the back of #7, Stacey says that the lifeguards looked like they were about fifteen years old. In both the original book and the 2010 edition (I checked), she says the lifeguards look about seventeen, and then later she finds out Scott's eighteen. So if Stacey says they look about fifteen, I'm thinking they're going to make Scott younger in this edition like they did in the graphic novel, where he's fifteen and not wildly age-inappropriate for Stacey, just not interested in her that way.
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Post by hannah26 on Jun 22, 2020 3:33:39 GMT -5
Do they talk about the lifeguards in Sea City in Claudia and Mean Janine? That’s one of the few BSC books I haven’t read. Are the new 2010 editions different? I’ve seen them advertised on amazon.
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