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Post by otempora541 on May 5, 2009 18:59:59 GMT -5
I have a few:
- I've seen too many Logan Bruno is an abusive a-hole. Regradless of my personal opinions of the dude, characterizing him this way is dangerous in fandom.
- Stacey is a garden hoe. OOC doesn't even begin to describe it.
- A Pike family member (Usually Byron ) is gay.
- A Pike family member is... Troubled.
- Mary Anne lacks a spine
- Kristy is a lesbian just because.
Any other cliches I've missed?
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Post by sweetvalleygirl99 on Jul 21, 2009 15:49:51 GMT -5
To follow up on your Kristy/lesbian cliche, another one is the Kristy/Abby pairing. I've seen it in multiple stories and it is getting old. Some stories make Claudia out to be even more of a dumb bimbo than she was in the series and embellish her love for junk food.
ITA about the Logan Bruno thing. And about Stacey.
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starrynight
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Post by starrynight on Jul 22, 2009 13:35:04 GMT -5
Someone always ends up drunk, on drugs, and/or pregnant.
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Post by sweetvalleygirl99 on Jul 22, 2009 20:04:19 GMT -5
The whole "Jessi's Black" thing is way overembellished in many stories. It was hilarious the first few times I came across it because it's there to poke fun at how it was always said in the chapter 2's but reading it in nearly every fic is almost as irritating as reading about Black Jessi in the chapter 2's in the series.
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Post by otempora541 on Jul 22, 2009 22:13:00 GMT -5
starrynight: I've noticed that a lot of fics tend to make Mary Anne the victim or Stacey the victim occasionally.
I know we're a small fandom, but for the love of oreos, tell us what your canon is! It is so distracting to read a fic and get across something that doesn't jibe with later book/series.
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Post by helsieboo on Jul 23, 2009 2:46:08 GMT -5
There's a fair bit of Logan being gay. I can't criticise though as I also made him gay!
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Post by Kylie90210 on Jul 28, 2009 17:45:39 GMT -5
^ I haven't seen any Logan's gay! Now I wanna read your fic! Can you please link it?
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Post by helsieboo on Aug 4, 2009 7:18:48 GMT -5
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Post by valuemeal2 on Jul 13, 2013 23:23:59 GMT -5
A club member dies.
Someone (often Mary Anne or Mallory) is in an abusive relationship.
They go to totally unimaginative colleges and have cliche futures (Claudia goes to art school in NYC, Dawn studies environmental science at UCLA, Mary Anne marries Logan and opens up a sewing shop...)
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Post by mallorypike on Dec 5, 2013 21:51:02 GMT -5
1) Mary Anne seems to be ALWAYS the victim in fan fictions. For Pete's sakes, would something bad happen to Kristy or Claudia or somebody else other than Mary Anne?! Poor Mary Anne...
2) Kristy is a lesbian. Seriously, where does everybody even get that idea?! Kristy likes quite a few boys in the series (Bart for the most part, Michel in European Vacation, MAYBE Alan Gray-after all, she did go to school dances with him in 7th grade). Kristy was actually more interested in boys than I did when I was 13...and I'm not a lesbian.
3) Emphasizing the fact that Jessi is black. I do agree that they make Jessi's skin color a big deal in the famous Chapter 2's but still...it's kind of annoying to call her Black Jessi instead of Jessi. (On an unrelated note, I think they make Watson being a millionaire a bigger deal IMO).
4) Like valuemeal2 said, the Babysitters do have cliche futures. I am SO sick of them. I think it's nice for the sitters to have futures based on their personalities but why not try something different (for example, Mary Anne becomes a fashion designer maybe with Stacey or by herself, Dawn could be a school cafeteria cook so that she could make healthier food, Kristy could be a school bus driver or an elementary school teacher, etc).
5)The sitters marry their middle school sweethearts. Especially Mary Anne. In every single fan fiction where Mary Anne is married, she is, of course, married to Logan. Even though Logan became sort of controlling later in the series, I always liked Mary Anne and Logan as a couple. But it's so unrealistic for them to marry (I know, it's fiction but still...). I would like to see Mary Anne marry Pete Black, Cary Retlin, or even Sam Thomas.
6)One of the sitters get pregnant (mainly Mary Anne, of course).
7) Karen Brewer is pursued as a REAL SPOILED BRAT. While she is a bit spoiled in the LS/BSC series, I never considered her a brat. I mostly thought of her as a sweet, funny little girl who is a bit on the manipulative side. Aren't all 7 year olds? I read a fan fiction from fanfiction.net and it was about 15 year old Karen acting like a baby so she gets treated like a baby. It was funny and I actually liked it for entertainment purposes. But in a lot of fan fictions Karen is, like, the most spoiled, brattiest baby ever.
8) Karen Brewer is a sl*t. In quite a few fan fictions, Karen dresses a tad bit slutty. I can see Karen dressing like a Stacey or a Claudia rather than a Kristy or Mary Anne but I don't see her wearing slutty clothes...
9) Byron Pike is gay. Honestly I don't see Byron gay at all. He's sensitive, true. But I'm confused where people get the idea Byron is gay.
Whew. Okay, I'm finished ranting about the cliches in BSC fan fiction. Excuse me for the ranting. That was more than necessary.
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Post by mistrali on Jan 29, 2014 8:29:52 GMT -5
The whole "Jessi's Black" thing is way overembellished in many stories. It was hilarious the first few times I came across it because it's there to poke fun at how it was always said in the chapter 2's but reading it in nearly every fic is almost as irritating as reading about Black Jessi in the chapter 2's in the series. I loathe Kristy/Abby with a passion. I really like them as friends in a couple of fics I've read, but don't see any romantic chemistry at all. For some reason, though, I like Kristy/MA in HS or college. I always see people having cancer. I mean, for God's sake. I know it was done in CA Diaries, but Sunny wasn't a fanfic character. She was also written extremely well (by Lerangis) and had a logical story arc. Most fanfics use it for shock value and angst. |
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Post by jessi82 on Apr 2, 2014 20:35:14 GMT -5
Yes victim/angsty/no life Mary Anne is a tired cliche as much as lesbian Kristy or Abby or skanky Stacey. I think in too many in the future books Mary anne is friendless and moping over Logan while Logan has moved on. I also notice that in the adult ones Mary anne is always the mopey one who stuck in Stonybrook living with Richard and pining over Logan while everyone else has left Stonybrook etc. It's like come on give the girl a break. Mallory getting ditched by Jessi is also a tired cliche
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Post by CharlotteTJohanssen on Apr 3, 2014 2:09:26 GMT -5
Has anyone found a decent bsc fic without the cliches?
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Post by jessi82 on Apr 3, 2014 19:03:33 GMT -5
CNJ seemed to break the cliches. In her universe Stacey was brainy rather than a 'tramp' or the uber cool mean girl type. Mary anne was also strong character rather than a wimp or victim. She still cried alot and faced hardship but in the end she found inner strength. CNJ also didn't portray Claudia as 'brain dead' and Kristy as OTT bossy. Also none of the girls end up with their middle school boyfriends and don't have cliche careers but at the same time they had jobs reflecting their personality and strengths. I think Claudia did advertising art rather than being an artist for example and Stacy was an engineeer.
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Post by greer on Apr 4, 2014 2:29:43 GMT -5
CNJ had her own cliches, from what I remember.
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