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Post by Honeybee on Feb 27, 2015 1:50:29 GMT -5
This will be a good book to reread again.
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Post by Honeybee on Aug 29, 2015 20:00:44 GMT -5
The last few chapters about the party. I didn't care for. Cause, it was the same thing. Just different point of view from Mary Anne, Kristy, Claudia, & Logan.
The camp I went to. The boys and girls were together of doing activites. From swimming to singing songs together. The only time, were separated from each other, in the cabin and using the restroom or taking a shower. So, if it was breakfast time, we all eat at the mess hall.
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Post by thejunkbucket on Sept 18, 2015 10:51:17 GMT -5
Oh and when I read this I was totally confused by the "oreo" comment like Mal and Jessi were. I was thinking, shouldn't there be three parts to an oreo, not just a black and white part? An 'Oreo' is a derogatory term within the African-American community to refer to a black person who 'acts white,' i.e. dresses conservatively, not hip-hop; speaks formal English, not Ebonics; tries to get good grades and attends college; and may date white women/men. They are branded 'Oreo,' because they are "black on the outside, white on the inside,' like the cookie. Some black people think all this betrays their 'African-American culture.' It's particularly difficult for black kids from the ghetto/inner city who aspire to better themselves and are called 'Oreos.' Anyway, the girl Maureen in their cabin misused the term. She was calling them both 'Oreos' because she said they look like one, together, which doesn't make sense. I guess if they had another black friend, then she might've had a point, since Mallory would be the middle cream filling.
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Post by thejunkbucket on Sept 18, 2015 11:04:59 GMT -5
The only camps I ever went to were space camp, basketball camps and Girls State where we stayed in dorms. I don't know if I would have liked staying in a cabin for a week. When I was 11 and my brother 12, we attended this huge camp in Rhode Island. (I forget the name.) They had several camps within this camp. For instance, I was in the 'Native American Camp' and my brother was in the 'Basketball Camp.' My brother and the rest of the other camps were in dorms, but my group had to sleep in these boxes in the middle of the woods. That's what they were. Huge boxes with one or two windows cut out and bunk beds. There were two boxes, of course, for the boys and for the girls. I remember being so jealous of my brother. We dropped him off at his dorm first, and they had nice little rooms with A/C, no bunks, and a bathroom/shower down the hall. Meanwhile, we had no electricity in our boxes (no fans or anything), and if we needed to use the bathroom at night, we had to go outside literally in nature. Or you'd better go in the bathrooms while we were 'in civilization' (what we called the rest of the camp) before we made the hike back to our boxes at night. It was always scary making the trek back at night.
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Post by thejunkbucket on Sept 18, 2015 11:10:30 GMT -5
There is even a Boxcar Children movie that came out in 2014! Here's the trailer: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TVLHl98y1EThe 3-D animation looks terrible! And why animation? It would've worked much better with live-actors. I read a couple Boxcar Children as a kid, but I got annoyed by how perfect they were and how perfectly they got along. At least in the BSC they could be downright bitches to each other, which was always fun to read.
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Post by thejunkbucket on Sept 18, 2015 11:15:58 GMT -5
I liked this book so much because I actually liked all the plotlines! I don't usually like Mary Anne, but she was awesome in this book! I LOVE that she snuck out to prove herself to her co-CITs. I love that she didn't back down when her co-CIT wanted to pierce her ears. And I especially loved her "Also, I have a gun." Maybe the best part of the book! I think that section bears repeating. I forgot what Randy had said about playing dead. Instead I began to scream.
"Go away! Get out! Don't kill me. I've got a kitten at home. He needs me. Oh, yeah, I've also got a gun."XD
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Post by thejunkbucket on Sept 18, 2015 11:23:36 GMT -5
A couple people asked about where were the 12-year-old campers. I think they were purposely left out, because then Mal & Jessi as Junior CITs would not make any sense. It was bad enough that there were other 11-year-old campers, but Mal & Jessi were given special privileges simply because they belonged to a Baby-sitters Club back home. So if they had 12-year-old campers, then it would be weird to not only have Junior CITs who are one year younger then they (i.e. Jessei, Mal), but CITs who are only one year older (i.e. Kristy, Dawn, Mary Anne, Stacey, Claudia).
The whole premise was ludicrous. I don't understand why they couldn't have just attended camp as regular campers. They were certainly young enough for it. I attended camp a couple times as 9-year-old, 11-year-old, and 15-year-old, and I was still a camper. I don't remember if there were CITs, but the regular counselors were in their 20s. As a 9-year-old I attended a religious camp, and the counselors were 20s, 30s, and 40s.
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Post by thejunkbucket on Sept 18, 2015 20:47:12 GMT -5
BTW: It was funny how in the epilog Claudia spells teepee as TP. XD
"P.S. Today is the thrid day in a row Ive' worn something with no TP on it."
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Post by thejunkbucket on Sept 28, 2015 22:07:22 GMT -5
Remember how they humored Jess and Mal by making them junior CITs? How ridiculous! I think that Mal and Jessi were kind of dull in this one and that they should have just let them be regular campers. WHo ever heard of JR. CITS? A CIT (counselor-in-training) is as low as you can go, and if two people decide they can be CITS while they're underage then other people will feel it isn't fair and they will want to be CITs too. Maybe that's why they were singled out and picked on by their cabin mates.
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Post by inge on Dec 19, 2015 9:25:15 GMT -5
Growing up I loved reading and watching movies about summer camp. Going to summr camp is just not a custom here in Holland, and it always seemed like so much fun! That is why I remember being a bit disappointed by this book, and rereading it now (almost through) I am again. I mentioned on page one in this thread that I'd wish th girls interacted more, and I stil do. Dawn goes missing with her campers and all some of hr friends know is there is "some crisis".? You'd think a search party was organised by other campers before or during the contacting of authorities! Also, more than the first half of this books reads like and introduction - each sitter explaining which hut they are in and whom they share it with. Then suddenly the whole first week of camp is over and nothing has happened. Both issues could have been resolved by having two sitters to the same cabin - shorter intro, more interaction and more time for an actual story. I mean what's the point of dragging Stacey out to camp only to then NOT see her for two weeks? I think this book suffers from telling and not showing (ie how writers are advised to show, not tell) keeping the story flat. Like eg we hear about Kristy getting a swimming badge but we don't get to see her swim or do any other sports. Instead we get a pretty much identical story for her, MA and even Logan, of having bunkies that are cooler than you. Oh no! I do actually enjoy this book don't get me wrong it is just one I think could have been better! I really enjoyed MAs storyline though, she was so bold! And her letter was just hilarious! I also liked that Logan got his own, for a glimpse into how the boy charges were doing!
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Post by booboobrewer on Dec 19, 2015 23:24:32 GMT -5
I really enjoyed MAs storyline though, she was so bold! And her letter was just hilarious! Mary Anne could be really amusing in the beginning of the series. She could be strange and snarky, but like, still in a sweet way.
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Post by virgoscorpio on Jan 1, 2016 13:27:51 GMT -5
The mention of Lyme Disease now makes me think of Yolanda Foster (if you're into RHOBH).
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Post by booboobrewer on Jan 1, 2016 23:15:16 GMT -5
Me too!
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Post by fairy3lf2 on Jan 5, 2018 1:34:29 GMT -5
Which one was written first, the Boxcar or the BSC one? That's a later, ghostwritten, Boxcar. This is old but I always meant to reply to it. The Bicycle Mystery is one of the original 19 (not ghostwritten) and I think it came out in 1970 (according to wikipedia at least). I never thought that the Boxcar Children and the Babysitters Club met at Camp Mohawk and I assumed that, if it was the same camp, the Boxcar Children kid (not one of the Aldens) attended it first.
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Post by oldhickory on Feb 12, 2018 13:07:20 GMT -5
I just finished rereading. It has been a while since I read this book, so I had some reactions that were either new or so old that I forgot I had them before.
- I really like the parallelism of Mary Anne and Logan's chapters. Their reactions to their suspensions are verbatim and I thought that was a sweet touch. Even though they were totally cheesy, they seem like a great fit for each other. - The girls were all REALLY bold in this book. Mary Anne's letter and sneaking around the lake is out of character for her and that gets a lot of the attention. But then there's Kristy cutting in at the dance, Claudia marching up to Will and introducing herself (I think the book mentions that he was caught off guard or startled by it), and Mallory and Jessi choreographing their play to call out their cabin mates and make them feel bad. It must be the fact that they are away from home, really for the first time in the series. - I don't totally believe the piece of choreography where Becca jumps into the other girls' arms and they catch her and lower her down face first. I feel like that can go wrong really easily even with skilled dancers, and Becca and Charlotte are not naturally graceful.
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