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Post by CharlotteTJohanssen on Nov 4, 2015 10:44:47 GMT -5
I don't really remember this book at all. The only detail I remember was the giant snow ball fight and claudia or Stacey falling in love.
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Post by bscfan1997 on Nov 4, 2015 19:15:33 GMT -5
I don't really remember this book at all. The only detail I remember was the giant snow ball fight and claudia or Stacey falling in love. Claudia and Stacey BOTH fall in love. Claudia falls in love with her ski instructor Guy and she imagines kissing him on the lips (yep, that's mentioned in that.) Stacey falls in love with a French- French (she assumes he's French-Canadian) and is very sophisticated and mature and wise beyond his ears. Mallory caught them in their romantic moments a few times, heh heh.
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Post by CharlotteTJohanssen on Nov 4, 2015 20:34:29 GMT -5
This is probably the only super special where two girls fall in love. I think.
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Post by bscfan1997 on Nov 4, 2015 21:23:23 GMT -5
Possibly. I haven't read all of them. But in NY NY Jessi falls in love with Quint and there's Dawn and Richie though it's never been really established that they're in love so I don't know if that counts...
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Post by booboobrewer on Nov 4, 2015 22:12:52 GMT -5
"The fire escape seems lonely without you." Oh, that's love
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Post by bscfan1997 on Nov 5, 2015 17:02:09 GMT -5
Ha, it is for thirteen year olds, lol.
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Post by inge on Dec 17, 2015 6:32:52 GMT -5
Just had to reread this one as I am longing for some snow. It is our warmest december to date here with double digits (in celcius, that is). Anyway the book surely obliged - I read it three nights in a row before I went to bed, huddled up so it wasn't to hard to imagine blizzards andmthings. I'd read this one once before years ago, so most of the contents were new to me again. I know some on this thread have cited this as their least favorite SS but I quite liked it. It gave me that holiday feeling though I did think it was really strange how on an obligated school trip you were allowed to just lounge around all day playing board games if that's what you felt like doing. Our school trips were all about learning with schedules filled up 8am to 8pm. This sounded like heaven! I didn't mind MAs librarian subplot and, having been an overdramatic teen myself, I didn't mind her soppy letters to Logan too much. They were funny! Mals spying subplot was quite boring though, as some have mentioned, the only time I have seen a relatable account of how my own childhood spying adventures always seemed to go Stacey - I don't care much for SS luuuuvvvv plots so this was kind of meh. Though the cracking voice= sexy and sophisticated thing definitely cracked me up. That was just the least sexy thing ever, I was so grossed out by boys with cracking voices at 13. Just sounded like they needed a good cough. Claudia - I liked that she was a good skier. Brings a new dimension to her character for me. Rather than just being art, art, stereotype Claudia, she did something different here. Definitely wish it had been mentioned elsewhere though. Like regular books might have occasionally referenced Claud going on winter sport holidays with her family. The Guy thing awww poor Claud, though mostly boring. Why was he so touchy feely though? Was it just a more innocent time? Jessi - maybe it's because I haven't read a lot of BSC in a while, but the way everyone treated her family when they just moved to Stoneybrook I actually couldn't blame her to much for considering racism an option. Idk. I know she talks about it all the time but she has faced some ridiculous things. It was nice that she wanted to go and have a chat with her family about it though. She needs it. Dawn - wait what was Dawns plot? Being a klutz and having a fight with MA? Did anything happen after that? I don't remember, I didn't think her stuff was to memorable. Did feel bad for her though. It's not easy having half of the kids mad at you, the other half making fun... Kristy - I was horrified when that kid broke his ankle! I know Kristy didn't force him to play but she definitely put a lot of pressure on him, and if I was him I would have been angry at least initially. Kristy must have been pretty starved for cross country players though, she just mentioned that after Dawn she didn't want any more klutzes on the team, next thing you know she is going around the cafeteria recruiting anyone really.
Other thoughts 1. Ok so I felt really bad for Clauds friend Ashley. In the 8th grade girl dorm she was going to be in the middle of the Bsc (Dawn and MA on one side, her sharing with Kristy, Claud and Stacey on the other side) because she didn't really have any friends. Then the girls ditch the dorm without a second thought and she is left stranded between five empty beds. Aww. 2. Speaking of, why were Mal and Jessi so horrified of sleeping in a dorm with their female classmates? Have they no friends? I mean they could share a bunk 3. And why was sharing a bunk so important? In my experience it is easier to talk to the person in the lower/upper bunk next to you than it is to talk to your bunkie. 4. Aww,Mal and the dance. Could relate. Was that boy ever mentioned again? 5. I was kind of glad the babysitting subplot didn't end up taking too much space. At the beginning it seemed like it was going to take over the book but kept a nice pace along with the other stories 6. Making fun of the chubby girl on tue bus and her then eating three snickers? Wow Ann. Eating disorders are not funny and some of your readers have them. Also some of them are fat. Jeez. 7. Did I blink and miss the snowball fight? I was looking forward to it but then I think they just brushed over it. Wah. 8. MA and the chat with her gym teacher - so nice! 9. The snowsculpture contest - nobody knowing what Jessi and Mals snow ballerina shoes were meant to be was funny and actually a little subtle. Nice touch!
Ok that was longer than I thought it would be. Apology for typos, I am on mobile!
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Post by booboobrewer on Dec 17, 2015 9:14:14 GMT -5
I like Dawn's storyline haha. It's so simple; she falls a lot. And I like how she told Mary Anne off and was like "please congratulate me for walking from x to x without falling down."
Yeah, Ann had a bit of a problem sensitively depicting overweight people.
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Post by oldhickory on Dec 17, 2015 9:37:17 GMT -5
I was always chubby (still am) and those throwaway conversations were really devastating as a kid. The BSC is supposed to be "the best friend's I'll ever have" but those lines about overweight people made me feel like they didn't understand me at all. They had people of all races, religions, etc in the club, but overweight people were still outsiders/easy targets. Even Claudia the big eater is described as thin.
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Post by inge on Dec 17, 2015 10:53:36 GMT -5
^ Definitely, that really bothered me when I was growing up chubby. It made me feel like the girls wouldn't accept me irl. And chubby girls get bombarded with media making fun of them as it is.
Good to know that really was all there was to Dawn's plot! It seemed to me like either she had no more chapters after about half the book or I somehow already forgot.
By the ways, Kristy stepping up and saying: "we'll go! We're the babysitters club!" As if that was all there was to it was a literal LOL moment for me. Never in a million years would anyone in their right mind take 5 13 year olds and 2 11 year olds instead of... You know... Adults who also had experience with children.
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Post by celaeno on Dec 17, 2015 17:51:35 GMT -5
^Yeah, I hate how in books/movies it's totally enduring/cute/funny when a skinny girl like Claudia pigs out all the time, but if they took the same exact character and kept all her same qualities except that she was now fat, then she suddenly becomes really gross/lazy. It happens all the time with real life people too. Just look at celebrities. If Jennifer Lawrence talks about how she loves to pig out on burgers and fries, everyone eats it up and loves her for it, but if Melissa McCarthy did the same thing, she'd get a lot of fat shaming.
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Post by virgoscorpio on Jan 1, 2016 13:30:02 GMT -5
I probably wouldn't have been interested in the Winter War as a kid too much but I really like the idea as an adult - it sounds really fun! The lodge itself sounds beautiful. I wish there was something similar with adults instead of kids! Vermont sounds like a beautiful place to visit any time of the year.
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Post by oldhickory on Mar 5, 2018 12:47:09 GMT -5
I just finished rereading again. This is one of those books that I didn't read until I was older, so I don't have the nostalgia or familiarity with it.
- I feel like Mallory's spying subplot is reused so, so often, and it always plays out the same way. It's really boring. - I really liked seeing Claudia do well at something other than art. She's never portrayed as an athlete so her skiing talent was unexpected. In fact, the only plot I can remember about Claudia and sports are her working with the Krushers when Kristy joins the softball team, and Claudia is totally out of her element in that book. - I read somewhere else in this thread that this book brings out the worst in each sitter, and I totally agree. Not one BSC member was likable in this book. Stacey, Dawn, and Claudia mostly make me roll my eyes, but Jessi, Kristy, Mallory, and Mary Anne were all actively irritating. And all of them were annoying in the same way - they were so stuck in their own heads that nothing anybody else said mattered. - Mary Anne's letters to Logan sound an awful lot like the fake letter she wrote at Camp Mohawk. The one she said sounded nothing like her and was a big goof. - The idea of being snowed in at the lodge sounds romantic and exciting, but it's really dumb that the schools wouldn't cancel the trips in the face of inclement weather. I've experienced blizzards and ice storms and being stranded in bad weather is dangerous. And you saw that when there were at least two bus accidents and serious injuries. It feels like poor and irresponsible planning. - I couldn't believe that the two injured Conway Cove teachers stayed there! There should have been a better backup than the BSC, and I'm guessing the fact that the BSC was the backup plan prevented the two teachers from recuperating at home.
This is already long so I'll stop here, but I just don't care for this book at all.
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Post by livvy on Mar 31, 2019 4:39:50 GMT -5
This is my least favourite of all the super specials. What idiot would drive a school bus full of kids in a snow storm?? It was a stupid plot device to get the baby sitters to baby sit. If I was a baby sitter there is no way I’d baby sit on my vacation.
And what’s with Jessi and Mallory being such babies?? They’ve stayed away from home before-in the previous book so why were they being like this?
Mary Anne being all Gaga over Logan is just ew. A thirteen year old in a serious relationship is just wrong.
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Post by booboobrewer on Apr 6, 2019 15:03:32 GMT -5
I teach high school and a pregnant 14 year old is not uncommon, so there are definitely young teens who think they are in love and yeah it’s just unbelievable.
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